.32 rimfire question?

Well pictures have been posted before on this but i guess they never got stickyed.
I seen all kindsa pics on makeing 32 and 38 RF ammo on CGN over the years.
Sounds like you guys are into it, so go for it.

I have a full box of domion 32 RF ammo i bought for $20 at a gun show :D
But id like to get some more reuseable 32 RF cases made up.
The idea of squishing the hilti case outa round would tighten it up in the hole but id be worried about gas rushing back at you.
Thats why the Crazy glue or if you like colour on your 32 Rf cases Nail polish :p works good as it seals up any air spaces.

Tactical870 you can wear your pink tutu when your shooting that ###y nail polish painted RF ammo eh :dancingbanana: :p
 
I've got a little over 500 rounds of the real stuff left..... Paid about a weeks pay to get it too....

Tactical870 you can wear your pink tutu when your shooting that ###y nail polish painted RF ammo eh
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Nah, the pink ammo is for the gf if I can ever convince her to post in the girls with guns thread.... Of course she'd have to wear her pink lingerie and heels to match.... :dancingbanana:
 
nasty expensive stuff eh, im game to try out all these other opitions before I go out and spend anymore cash on a shell you can only shoot once and its gone.
 
now then, what would a fellow use to reload for .38 rimfire? one of these days I want one, soon as I can find one, what sort of shell could a guy cut down to load for them?
 
Now you've got me thinking..... I've already got as 38 special case, 38 rf case, and a .27 hilti shell in one hand and an icy Canadian in the other.... May have to go back out to the shop tonight......
 
tactical870 said:
Now you've got me thinking..... I've already got as 38 special case, 38 rf case, and a .27 hilti shell in one hand and an icy Canadian in the other.... May have to go back out to the shop tonight......
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The 27 cal Hilti might not be large enough in diameter for the firing pin to hit it. It measures 0.325"
 
The 27 cal Hilti might not be large enough in diameter for the firing pin to hit it. It measures 0.325"
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That's why I need someone with a functioning .38 rf to try a couple rounds.... Gotta head out and mic the .38 special brass to see if they'll work....
 
The downside to off center rounds is that they don't always index in revolvers. I'm partial to centering the priming device so that it will always fire. Of course this doesn't always work as some guns have smaller hammers. I may make up a jig for doing this though......
 
Andy said:
The 27 cal Hilti might not be large enough in diameter for the firing pin to hit it. It measures 0.325"
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It depends on the size of the firing pin/blade; some guns will and some won't. The rifle in the first photo is 38 rimfire and works with a centered Hilti shell. It is important for the hilti shell or the 22 blank to sit .005 - .010" proud of the rim so that maximum force is applied by the pin to the primer and is not used up on the case rim. Bottom gun is .57 rimfire and definitely needs to be offset

cheers mooncoon

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Here's how I did it

You need:

- 27 Cal Ramset Powder Charge - "Green" has about 2.3 grs of powder, "Brown" has about 1.7 grs

- Winchester 32 Short Colt Brass. It's a bit shorter than 32 Long Colt, but easy to find (you have to make 32 Long Colt from 32 S&W)

- a 0.311-0.313" Round Ball Weighs about 48 grs

- a 17/64" and a "Q" drill. A lathe is the best way to drill the holes.

To apply this to a larger round like the 38 RF, you have to offset the holes so the the rim of the Ramset is against the edge of the brass. I'd make a jig to hold the brass off centre and use a 17/64" end mill to make the cut. (my next project).

The beauty of this setup is that the Ramset is both the primer and the powder charge, and you don't have to line up the round to align with the firing pin. The powder seems to be like Bullseye in Burn Rate (fast) and for my Remington #4 Rolling Block, "Green" contains a suitably mild charge for a 48 gr Round Ball. Brown 27 Cal charges are very difficult to find, and are required IMO if you go heavier than the 48 gr Round Ball. Firearms not as strong as the #4 would require caution using the Ramset charge - you might want to empty the powder and replace it will blackpowder, or a suitable smokeless charge.

I press the Ramset into place by squeezing it in using a vise - once in place, I do the same with the Round Ball, then put a dab of Alox on it.
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Drill a two step hole into the base of the 32 Short Colt Brass - a 17/64" all the way through the web, then a shallow 0.332" ("Q" drill), deep enough that the Ramset charge sits flush. Notice how the firing pin nicely strikes the edge of the Ramset.

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A shot of the two-step hole, and a fired Ramset Charge. The Aluminum Block has a "Q" drill sized hole (I have since drilled a shallow hole the diameter of the rim, (to centre the cartridge over the hole). I use it to deprime using a metal rod and a small hammer.

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as long as you stick with the green ramsets, I can't see why you would want to stick your neck out grinding the end off of the ramset shell. I use the ramsets loaded and fill up the remainder with 3F black

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
as long as you stick with the green ramsets, I can't see why you would want to stick your neck out grinding the end off of the ramset shell. I use the ramsets loaded and fill up the remainder with 3F black

cheers mooncoon
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LOL Yes it might not be Dangerous but i aint trying it.
I like the idea of leaveing the charge in place to.
The discription Andy gives is the best i seen yet tho.
What i like about this over the other 32 RF adaptors is the round can turn in the chamber and will still fire.

Im makeing 41 RF cases with off set 22 Blanks and found out 38 55 cases are the perfect size cut to 41 RF length.

My Derringer is 41 RF top barrel the bottom one is a 1inch and a half Shot shell with a 22 Blank also made from a 38 55.
useing a 41 long colt case the rim is to small i find the 38 55 perfect.

The milling machine works ex to make the 22 blank rim recess.
I fould silver sodering in the Primer pocket hole with brass rod frist made the 41 RF cases perfect.
Its a deadly little DB Derringer now.
 
can you re-post or fix those pics, i can only see one and the others are little red x's


edit: lol never mind, my browser is weird today
 
Someone made mention of an industrial sized 32 Cal Powder Fastening system, but I can't find any reference to such. The guy was probably mistaken. Anyone hear of such a beast?
 
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