325 wsm

elk 135 i will debate the 325 might be versitile and able to replace a 30 06 or 300 but lighter, shorter and LESS RECOIL. both my 30 06 and 300wsm have less felt recoil than my 325 loaded with a 200 grn bullet and stout charge of rel 17. i like 8's having both a 325 and a rem 8 mag but i can't buy the reduced recoil argument.

chappy ..u right to a degree. The 325 uses powder more efficiently to produce velocity within a bullet weight and shud be less recoil. The combination of rifle weight and powder is a factor in recoil..."felt recoil" is subjective.
 
chappy ..u right to a degree. The 325 uses powder more efficiently to produce velocity within a bullet weight and shud be less recoil. The combination of rifle weight and powder is a factor in recoil..."felt recoil" is subjective.

Im going to say that a heavier (220 grain) 325 is going to recoil more then a 180 grain projectile, also the slightly larger (5%) bore of the 325 would allow the bullet to get out quicker, also increasing felt recoil. Recoil is subjective, but I think muzzle energy is a decent way to quantify things.

Just my thoughts, but if you think about bringing the weight of the projectile down to near zero, you shouldnt feel the recoil as much, like fire forming brass with paper.
 
i do notice a differnce between the 300 wsm 180grn and 325 200grn loads. i tend to load hot in the 8 and the recoil is quite a bit more in the 325. i have only used 200's in the 325.i have never shot factory ammo in neither calibre to compair only reloads. i would think dropping to 180's in the 325 would tend to equalize felt recoil . rifles are close in weight. t3 300wsm abolt 325.
 
I needed a bear gun and needed one quick. Found an X-bolt stainless stalker in 325wsm, did a little ballistics comparison between a 300wm and load development research on the 325 potential. a 220gr 8mm bullet traveling at 2850fps is pretty impressive. Plus at 6lbs 8oz it doesn't kick as much as my buddies 7mm rem mag and is very nice to pack around in the mountains. I'm 5'8" and 140lbs btw...
I think if any research is done as to why the 325wsm was made and not the 338wsm is because the 325 performs better at short and long ranges. You would need something with more case capacity to push the heavier 338 bullets to win over the 8mm bullets.
To me the 325wsm is a great all purpose gun for anything in North America. Yes there are flatter and faster cartridges but at what expense, your shoulder, your wallet?
Granted the bullet selection is minimal but even if you only had the 200gr nosler, 200 & 220gr swift and the 200 & 220gr gamekings to choose from, what more do you need?
 
I needed a bear gun and needed one quick. Found an X-bolt stainless stalker in 325wsm, did a little ballistics comparison between a 300wm and load development research on the 325 potential. a 220gr 8mm bullet traveling at 2850fps is pretty impressive. Plus at 6lbs 8oz it doesn't kick as much as my buddies 7mm rem mag and is very nice to pack around in the mountains. I'm 5'8" and 140lbs btw...
I think if any research is done as to why the 325wsm was made and not the 338wsm is because the 325 performs better at short and long ranges. You would need something with more case capacity to push the heavier 338 bullets to win over the 8mm bullets.
To me the 325wsm is a great all purpose gun for anything in North America. Yes there are flatter and faster cartridges but at what expense, your shoulder, your wallet?
Granted the bullet selection is minimal but even if you only had the 200gr nosler, 200 & 220gr swift and the 200 & 220gr gamekings to choose from, what more do you need?

Winchester goofed on the 8mm short mag. mainly because most folks in North America prefer boolits in .338, .35 & .375 as far as medium bores are concerned. It all boils down to a favorites thing, though all will do the job just fine.:)
 
I have a 325 and a 270WSM. Being a lefty I have both in Browning Medallions. I reload, so ammo is not an issue but I have seen the prices of the factory stuff....ouch. I don't think components will be an issue as there are a lot of 300's out there and IMHO brass might be the toughest to get in the future but 300 brass can be resized. 8mm has been around for awhile and the 325 works well with powders in the 4350 range. I like the 325 especially in the Browning and when we get some decent weather I plan on doing some work with the 270 WSM. I hope it's as accurate as the 325.
 
Had a win model 70 extreme all weather in .325. Dumped it. Recoil was sharp ( stock design I think). My win super grade in .338 kicked significantly less. Biggest problem was bullet availability. Not a lot of choices on the shelf when reloading (it took me 6 months to find reloading dies) ammo off the shelf was uber expensive ($75.00++ for 20 rounds or $40.00 for crap I.e. Win power points). My two cents, 338 win is a better calibre, stay away.

I have the same 325wsm in M70 EW found the felt recoil very mild even shooting from the bench. More pleasant to shoot than my Rem 700 30-06

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See, now that is what I just don't get. I easily get 2970 from a 200 gr. TSX out of my .300 Win. with better B.C. and sectional density added to the mix. If you are going to shoot light for caliber bullets, there is no point at all to the .325WSM. I can't understand why it is getting any attention at all.

I.ve had 200grTSX moving over 3000fps with the 325 with no pressure signs

Actually, the 325 does fill a small gap - a .308 cal is .015 below .323, and .015 above is the .338 cal. IMO it fills a void 'more vacant' than any other of the WSM family....well, with north american based cartridges, that is...
Still can't say it will last the test of time, but it is a cool oddball!

I agree. The 325 was the only WSM to fill a gap or offer anything new
 
Thanks for posting the links medvedqc. As a bit of a disclaimer on my part, a resident from NWT told me on the phone last year that a hunter needed a minimum of 30 caliber with 220 grain bullet. Obviously the resident didn't know the regulations in his home territory. This changes the hunting rig that I would use when I get the opportunity to hunt bison up in NWT.

Unless you move to the NWT, live there as a resident for 2 years (I believe they are changing to 1 year under the new Wildlife Act) and eventually get drawn for a tag, you will never hunt bison there. I hope no one got your hopes up.
 
Unless you move to the NWT, live there as a resident for 2 years (I believe they are changing to 1 year under the new Wildlife Act) and eventually get drawn for a tag, you will never hunt bison there. I hope no one got your hopes up.

in Yukon we will able to special guiding for Bison for 2015-2016 but without a lot of gear it can be a nightmare even in spring time.
 
BUM,

you ll be back before it will happen.

imagine the numbers of friends the Yukoners will have. the Grizzly just now is gone for special guiding ... we have only caribou, wolf, moose, black bears left for the outside residents ....
 
There's been numerous weights and types of boolits mentioned here . I have personally only used the factory loaded 200 AB and 200 XP3. They are close in performance on game for me so far . Anyone got real hand experience with any other 180-220 , TSX, Woodleigh etc..
 
Unless you move to the NWT, live there as a resident for 2 years (I believe they are changing to 1 year under the new Wildlife Act) and eventually get drawn for a tag, you will never hunt bison there. I hope no one got your hopes up.

I guess there are things that all of us can learn... There is a problem with health issues with some of the Bison in the NWT. And it appears as though you know more then I related to the hunting of Bison in the NWT. Thanks for your input and I'll keep it in mind.
 
Great reading and very true ..if you have a combination of a 30-06, 300 whatever, and or , a 338.. the 325WSM replaces them all, in a lighter short action package, with less recoil ..gotta love the fat 8......

I agree with your comments. It's right between and can do a lot. It's one of those calibers that's on a wish list. And because it can shoot a 200 - 220 grain bullet. That would be the reason why I would use it.
 
Ok, 325 pics it is!

Here is my beast, its a m70 action with a shilen barrel, nestled in a Manners stock - Terry at BlackArt put it together... the vertical grip does wonders for a wrist that has stiffened up due to injury...

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Bedded and tuned, it shoots great - 200gr NAB over a stiff load-o-H4350. This target is a 200yd target on a windy day

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Highwind, just get a good 9.3X62, load plain vanilla cup and core 285 gr bullets, and go bison hunting. Easy on the rifle, your shoulder, and your pocketbook, ..... hard on critters of all sizes.

And, contrary to much misconception, while it is indeed a great short range hammer, it is quite effective on big game to well over 200 yards with factory RN ammo. Handloads with spitzer bullets easily reach out to 300.

Ted
 
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