338 EDGE what do you think

Blackcloud said:
So, just curious but does he get to choose which one he sleeps in or goes he have a designated safe?? May be he has LRC's multicam socks in there too:evil::p
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You know me, I am real easy to get along with so I let him pick which ever safe he wants to curl up in for the night. He seems to favor the safe with the Ferret however:p:p

None of LRCs socks are here, I may not have seen them being camo and all but would have smelled them by now.:p
 
The .338 edge looks like a great round.

Almost all of the long range shots in this nightforce advertizement video are using the 338 edge

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Ok, that's funny, this post generated 3 pages of responses and NO'ONES shot one yet, so the origional post still isn't answered, laff.
Do they shoot?
After reading the write up in the magazine last month I didn't notice anything overly exciting about it.

M.
 
Ice-Pick said:
Ok, that's funny, this post generated 3 pages of responses and NO'ONES shot one yet, so the origional post still isn't answered, laff.
Do they shoot?
After reading the write up in the magazine last month I didn't notice anything overly exciting about it.

M.
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You are correct that the post is not really answered as it should be.
The 338 Edge is for all intents as close to 338 Lapua as possible as far as performance goes.
The pros and cons are, the Edge can be built easily on any standard magnum action includeing left hand 1s. The number of none custom actions available in left hand with a Lapua sixe bolt face is very slim.
Therefore the cost can be kept down on the action by using a standard 700 or whatever.
The downside is that true match brass is not as available. Nosler makes 300RUM brass but at this time is scarce , hopefully this will improve in 2009.
As for accuracy if the right parts are used and the guy building it is competent, they shoot extremely well just like the Lapua will given the same components and craftsmanship.
A 300 gr bullet going 2900 plus fps is going to have the same energy and trajectory regardless of the casing it is fired from.
The 338 edges we have built to date all are easily capable of 1/2 moa accuracy.

Icepick, not sure what you are expecting for exciting, this caliber just like most of the other bigger 338s are all about the same for performance.
300 gr SMKs doing 2900 plus fps that generate over 6000 ftlbs of energy and that have an easy effective killing range of 1500 yards that is affordable to shoot. What else could a guy want?:D
 
here mine sitting on the infamous freezer,,,(hope u dont mind Rick )
im still waiting to fund a rail and a scope for here ...but have bin forming brass
in the mean time for it ....:)I have the 300Rum brass necked up to 375 Rum
and will be seting up a false shoulder on it and let em rip sum day ...

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Ric , I don't remember the specifics of the article but it has something along the line of the author jumping up and down over such great accuracy it almost shot a 1" group at 100 and i'm thinking, wow, this guys excited about that?? If they don't all touch at 100 it's useless to me. The .338 Lapua is already quite capable of great accuracy why do we need another one ?.

Also I'm not worried about what it kills at 1500 as long as the last shot landed right beside the one before it and the one before that too.

M.
My targets are already dead.
 
.338 Edge

Thought the readers of this thread might be interested in the original roots of the .338 Edge. Some of you might remember it as the .338 Imperial Magnum, which I designed in 1989 along with the other Imperial Magnums. We had production rifles and cartridge cases on the commercial market in 1993. My favorites were the .338 and the .360 as these two were best suited to the large case capacity of the .404 Jeffery parent case. The smaller Imperial Magnum calibers used the same case size. They were very much “overbore” capacity and were not very efficient but the larger .338 and .360 (.358) bores really shine with the modified .404J case.

I had been aware of the military interest in a high performance .388 in the mid 1980’s. Ed Dillon suggested a .338 based on the .416 Rigby, which ultimately morphed into the .338 Lapua. Boots Obermeyer and Jim Bell produced barrels & cartridge cases for R&D. Lapua was also involved at this early stage. For reasons much to lengthy to get into, the North American principals fell by the wayside leaving Lapua to continue development. The .338 Lapua is a great cartridge but it needs a bigger action than those commonly available – not a problem for military budgets but a legitimate issue for hunters and long-range competitors.

I chose the .404 Jeffery case for the very reasons mentioned by Rick in that it is the maximum case size that will fit a standard magnum action. I sent my case drawings to Bill Keyes at RCBS who supplied the case forming dies. These dies were then used to form the necks and shoulders. RWS .404 Jeffery cases were then fire formed to fully form the body. The only other modification was a .005” reduction of the rim on the production cases. The slightly rebated rim allowed magnum bolt faces to be used without modification. This was a lot of work but the results were worth it in my view. It gave us .338 Lapua performance in standard magnum actions that most of us can afford.

Remington copied the Imperial Magnum design and began marketing their Ultra Magnums in 1999. For whatever reason they shortened their .338 version which resulted in Wildcatters forming .338’s from the .300 or .338 RUM cases to get the capacity they were looking for. The original .338 Imperial used the full length of the .404J case.

As you can see, it was a long and winding road that finally led us to the .338 Edge. A reinvention of the .338 Imperial Magnum.

Regards

Aubrey
 
Ice-Pick said:
Ric , I don't remember the specifics of the article but it has something along the line of the author jumping up and down over such great accuracy it almost shot a 1" group at 100 and i'm thinking, wow, this guys excited about that?? If they don't all touch at 100 it's useless to me. The .338 Lapua is already quite capable of great accuracy why do we need another one ?.

Also I'm not worried about what it kills at 1500 as long as the last shot landed right beside the one before it and the one before that too.

M.
My targets are already dead.
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I think accuracy of a cartridge, in some cases, has more to do with how the gun is put together then anything else. ATRS built 338 Edges and Edge AIs comes with the same accuracy garanty that any other of the accurate calibers get which is sub 1/2MOA accuracy all the way out. To shoot a sub 1/2" group at 100yds isn't even worth talking about but when clients are getting consistent 1.5" groups at 500yds with load developement and match type bullets, that's worth talking about. Further to that, once our clients have found places to stretch these big boomers out and come back with reports that their guns are consistently shooting between 3-4" groups at 1000+yds, we feel we've satisfied the customer's need for an accurate long range rifle.
 
If your going to get an edge get the AI chamber, I have close to the same gun from ATRS. With the AI chamber I rarely need to trim cases and they seem to last a lot longer. I went with the 5.5x22x56 nightforce, with the high magnification you'll need the biggest lens possable in low light, unless you have a big spotlight (just kidding).
 
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