Anyone else using 36 410 in the field ? I know most say it is not viable or ethical in the field but for years I have used a sxs and pump on my woodcock and farm quail hunts with 3/4 oz handloads and some tight choke with great success. Never could get the load velocity above 1050 fps but with the small birds it dispatched them with authority. Anyone handloading 3 inch 1/2 oz loads with 7.5 shot to get the velocity up for larger birds ?
36 gauge 410
- Thread starter warzaw
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I use a 410 for small game. Mostly squirrel
I use a few but my favorite is a stevens 301 turkey edition with a red dot. 1/2oz of copper 6s will drop a big old black out of the top of the tallest oaks. For feathered game I prefer a sxs full chokes and 7.5 shot. I generally use 2.5" shells
I use a few but my favorite is a stevens 301 turkey edition with a red dot. 1/2oz of copper 6s will drop a big old black out of the top of the tallest oaks. For feathered game I prefer a sxs full chokes and 7.5 shot. I generally use 2.5" shells
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Ontario
I like it up north, mostly for head shots on grouse. Very popular in the north.
Favourite thing about it is how light the shells are in your pocket!
Favourite thing about it is how light the shells are in your pocket!
- Location
- Okanagan Valley B.C.
Absolute worse gun my Dad started me on for ducks was
a phukn single shot 84 Cooey 410.
A twelve year old or any one starting shot gun should
get a gun they can hit birds on the wing,.
The 20 gauge would be xlnt or even a 28 gauge but my Dad was frugal.
For ground birds he didn't buy Long Rifle , only .22 short.
.... skwerl
a phukn single shot 84 Cooey 410.
A twelve year old or any one starting shot gun should
get a gun they can hit birds on the wing,.
The 20 gauge would be xlnt or even a 28 gauge but my Dad was frugal.
For ground birds he didn't buy Long Rifle , only .22 short.
.... skwerl
I think a 410 bore works out to a 67.6396 gauge...
It's the weight of how many balls .410" diameter make 1lb.
So absolutely tiny. I'm not sure of where the 36 gauge info came from? I have heard it before though. Think it's an old incorrect thing Europeans would reference.
It's the weight of how many balls .410" diameter make 1lb.
So absolutely tiny. I'm not sure of where the 36 gauge info came from? I have heard it before though. Think it's an old incorrect thing Europeans would reference.
Right or wrong 36 gauge is the referance used most often in Europe who really cares ?
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Right or wrong 36 gauge is the referance used most often in Europe who really cares ?
Don't care much, just pointing it out. I like facts.
I've always thought of .410 wingshooting as a setup for experts, not beginners.
True to some extent but I think the answer to the 36 410 is understanding it's short comings as to range choke a shot size requirments. Breyben seems to have it figured out with his turkey choke red dot tree rat 410. It's about range , choke and shot size not a gun for all but a fun gauge for sure in my books. My Simmons built model 42 has also posted some half decent target scores through the years if I do my part and i am no expert by far.
I HANDLOADED 410g back in the 1960’s using a filed down nail for depriming and wooden dowels to tamp down the wads in 3” purple papered CIL cases. The over powder wad was a rolled up ball of aluminum foil to protect the toilet paper wad in front from shredding and burning. I think there was just a bit more than 1/2oz of #6 shot loaded to facilitate a crimp that looked sort of okay. Killed about 18 pheasants per year with this and a Cooey 410g (that didn’t fit me) on a grape farm when I was a kid. 15 yard max !! Killed squirrels, cottontails and one jack rabbit. If thats all you had then you found a way to make it work. If you can’t be with the one you love then love the one your with
Philosophy. Now I play with a Browning Citori and a Win Mod 42 on barnyard starlings. For bigger game I move up to the mighty 28g. lol
Philosophy. Now I play with a Browning Citori and a Win Mod 42 on barnyard starlings. For bigger game I move up to the mighty 28g. lol
Dorian Gray
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
It's a very popular bird getting round where I'm from. Shots are usually within about 20 yards, birds on the ground and chokes are full. Shot size is usually #6, but preferably #4 if its available. All lead.
I've tried it and it works for that application. But I prefer a 28 gauge. Or a 16 for that matter. I find I've got more range with those than the .410. But its up to the individual to decide what they like. I'm glad we have choices.
I've tried it and it works for that application. But I prefer a 28 gauge. Or a 16 for that matter. I find I've got more range with those than the .410. But its up to the individual to decide what they like. I'm glad we have choices.
Somewhere on here I posted patterns thru that Lil turkey gun going right up to #2 lead. Dont get many pellets but still gave good results out way further than expected. Not sure where they're posted though
The guys all laugh when I shoot skeet with it. Its all about having fun
I enjoy the 410 for skeet ,and nobody laughs when I run 50 or 75 straight with it, but I haven't hunted with a 410 in over 50 years. Anything the 410 can do hunting, the 28 or 20 gauge does better, so I see no point in using the 410. For head shooting grouse, a larger gauge provides a denser pattern, and doesn't ruin meat, and for wingshooting, a heavier payload is far superior.
