375 platforms ?

c-fbmi said:
Really?

Is this opinion from a basis of experience, or just another post parroting the internet wisdom of the inexperienced.
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To be fair, he did say seems. You know that I'm a fan of the Model 70 and a 375 without CRF kinda seems wrong to me too. I know it isn't, but it seems wrong (kinda like that glass floor in the CN Tower...#### that silliness!). I'm the same way about scoping a lever action rifle (Savage 99 and Winchester 88 being notable exceptions).
 
Slamfire said:
Whenever we learn of a push-feed rifle failure in the field, unreliability perceptions get reinforced. Nightmare scenario :eek: -

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This is talking about a Weatherby Mark V........completely different extraction system than the 700 Rem.........not sure of the relevance........
 
buckbrush said:
I have seen a few Rem. 700's jam from just pushing the bolt forward an inch, pulling it back and pushing it forward again.
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Nothing can be made totally idiot proof..........I have my doubts about the one inch part but I do know that after the live round pops up, and you don't close the action, and you try to cycle it again, you can get a jam..........but this is operator error, not a fault of the rifle. That's like saying that landing a retract aircraft with the gear up causes a wreck..........yep it sure does, but it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the design, again that is operator error, not using his equipment as designed, and not following his training.
What you describe is likely to happen with any push feed designed action...not just Rem 700s.
 
c.t.smith said:
What's out there for hunting rifles in 375 ruger or HH...
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buckbrush said:
a non CRF .375 seems wrong to me,...
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medvedqc said:
... now on the PF versus CRF im one of those that do not like rem 700 because i got issues as a guide...
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c-fbmi said:
This is talking about a Weatherby Mark V........completely different extraction system than the 700 Rem.........not sure of the relevance........
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In regard to push-feed rifles.
 
buckbrush said:
a non CRF .375 seems wrong to me, especially a Rem. 700.
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If CRF is so good, why don't it's advocates insist on that system for all their rifles, not just 375 and larger?

I have no axe to grind either way, but have never had any problems with any of the dozens of 700s I've owned over the year including a couple in 375.
 
Slamfire said:
CRF is perceived by many to provide enhanced reliability for critical applications like dangerous game hunting for which larger calibers are typically used.
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Right! ........ How many folk actually find themselves in that sort of hunting situation. Not many here on CGN, I'd guess.

Not flamin', just throwing a few thoughts out. :)
 
SuperCub said:
If CRF is so good, why don't it's advocates insist on that system for all their rifles, not just 375 and larger?

I have no axe to grind either way, but have never had any problems with any of the dozens of 700s I've owned over the year including a couple in 375.
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Most I know that like crf guns have all crf guns. Thanks for the info on the Vangard, my brother is thinking of replacing his 375 that got burnt.
 
I like crf..... just cause I like crf due to liking winchesters and Rugers.......

As for the intent of this thread, I prefer a .375 H&H in a classy rifle..... blued and wood for me...

That being said, if you want an all weather..... .375 whether Ruger or H&H, zastava, Ruger and Winchester all make various configurations......

All offer different levels of refinement, and all will be serviceable.....
 
SuperCub said:
If CRF is so good, why don't it's advocates insist on that system for all their rifles, not just 375 and larger?

I have no axe to grind either way, but have never had any problems with any of the dozens of 700s I've owned over the year including a couple in 375.
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except one alll mine are CRFs .... and not only above 375 ...
 
For sure, that would work for me! Mine are Safari Express but I like those to. Just for the record, I like CRF but I have no issue with anyone using push feed. Years ago I shot tons of game with Remington's and Sakos. If you are familiar with your rifle there should be no problem. I rarely need to slow feed a round while hanging upside down any more.
 
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a properly tuned and polished CRF rifle, as I have said before I am totally bifeedual and have many of both types. And even though I have not hunted with a CRF, I most certainly would. My 340 is a Mod 70 SG CRF, my 416 Rigby is a 602 Brno CRF..........ah, and I have hunted with a CRF...I took my walrus with a CZ 550 FS in 9.3X62, a classic CRF action. I have 3 CZs all CRF, I have a couple more Win Mod 70s all CRF and I even have a Ruger Safari in 375 Ruger which is also a CRF plus several 98 variations........The point being that I love most guns and am not the least bit skewed one way or the other when it comes to PF vs CRF, as long as they function 100% as they are designed to do.
I just get tired of reading all the "trash talk" about Remingtons and other PF makes, to a lesser degree. They have worked for me for the last 45 years of hunting and shooting.
 
The 375 H&H proves to be immensely popular and will remain so long after we are gone.
The 375 Ruger cartridge is an excellent choice and I like it but to even think the H&H round is obsolete is just plain silly simply because of a belt.
Performance differences between the two is like splitting hairs.
 
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