375 Ruger here to stay?

cody c said:
All hail the new king of making people hate the 375: Gatehouse!

Seriously, it looks like a great caliber, I bought dies and brass the other year thinking I would grab one but didnt manage to find a lefty in an alaskan. Now Im broke and found a couple others so it doesnt matter. But Im still not sure if gate is trying to make people like it or hate it? Socially inept I figure with good intentions, more people here would be into it if he wasnt a one man parade spouting a proclaimed dominance.
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Some people have said that they wouldn't look at the NEW KING due to my enthusiasm, but I think they didn't really want one to begin with. I also think it's pretty funny, because they must be so weak minded and petty to get "turned off" to an excellent cartridge based on one guy having some fun on the intraweb. ;)

I always get a big laugh about how a new cartridge will bring out the worst in some people. It's as if it's a personal attack on them! :)

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING! :)
 
The Ruger feeds with utter reliability. Every bullet I've tried in it I can feed using 2 fingers. But this shouldn't be surprising, since most of our rifle cartridges today are not tapered, and they all feed fine, unless there is something wrong with the rifle...



Sorry, but I don't believe this for a second. Yours may very well feed ok, but neither the first Alaskan, nor my African would feed worth a damn.
My current Alaskan feeds fair to middlin' but only after spending time with a competent gunsmith.
Having said that , every 375 Holland I have owned has functioned flawlessly.
Seriously, I wish the Ruger 375 I currently own would live up to your exaggerated claims.
 
The sad fact is that sometimes better offerings dont catch on e.g. .17 rem fireball vs new .17 HH. The 17 fb will prolly die with the inferior round more popular.
 
Gatehouse said:
Some people have said that they wouldn't look at the NEW KING due to my enthusiasm, but I think they didn't really want one to begin with. I also think it's pretty funny, because they must be so weak minded and petty to get "turned off" to an excellent cartridge based on one guy having some fun on the intraweb. ;)

I always get a big laugh about how a new cartridge will bring out the worst in some people. It's as if it's a personal attack on them! :)

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING! :)
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It's not that I wouldn't buy one because of your rantings, that's silly of coarse, it's that I couldn't TELL anyone I bought one, because of your rantings, that pisses me off :)

ALL HAIL THE TRUE KING......375 H&H
 
Kevan said:
The Ruger feeds with utter reliability. Every bullet I've tried in it I can feed using 2 fingers. But this shouldn't be surprising, since most of our rifle cartridges today are not tapered, and they all feed fine, unless there is something wrong with the rifle...



Sorry, but I don't believe this for a second. Yours may very well feed ok, but neither the first Alaskan, nor my African would feed worth a damn.
My current Alaskan feeds fair to middlin' but only after spending time with a competent gunsmith.
Having said that , every 375 Holland I have owned has functioned flawlessly.
Seriously, I wish the Ruger 375 I currently own would live up to your exaggerated claims.
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There was some question that the 375 RUger would feed flat meplat bullets correctly, so I made some up and posted a video here, demonstrating how they fed effortlessly with gentle finger manipulation. It put to rest the silly "you need a long tapered cartridge to feed" argument. It's a ridiculous assertion, considering that most of the cartridges we commonly use don't have a long taper to them. How is it that ONLY 375 caliber cartridges need to be tapered to feed properly??

I don't know why your rifles had problems, but obviously thee is a RIFLE issue, and not a CARTRIDGE issue. If it was a cartridge issue, then ALL cartridges that didn't have a tapered case would be an issue, and they would have stopped making them years ago.
 
Kevan said:
This is a true statement.... it certainly did in your case ....
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Lets not take this out of context- Here is the full statement:


I always get a big laugh about how a new cartridge will bring out the worst in some people. It's as if it's a personal attack on them!


Some people view new cartridges as a personal attack on them..That was my point.

I don't hate the H&H. When WSM's came out, some people just had to hate them. When the NEW KING came out, some people had to hate it. And so it goes for new cartridges. Some people have to hate them. There are some cartridges I prefer over others, some new, some very old- but I don't hate any.
 
Gatehouse said:
There was some question that the 375 RUger would feed flat meplat bullets correctly, so I made some up and posted a video here, demonstrating how they fed effortlessly with gentle finger manipulation. It put to rest the silly "you need a long tapered cartridge to feed" argument. It's a ridiculous assertion, considering that most of the cartridges we commonly use don't have a long taper to them. How is it that ONLY 375 caliber cartridges need to be tapered to feed properly??

I don't know why your rifles had problems, but obviously thee is a RIFLE issue, and not a CARTRIDGE issue. If it was a cartridge issue, then ALL cartridges that didn't have a tapered case would be an issue, and they would have stopped making them years ago.
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But, if I remember correctly, isn't this one of your arguements of why you don't like the 300 wsm (or any of the WSM's for that matter)? It's not as long and tapered as the 300 win, so it doesn't feed as well? The longer more tapered versions that do the same thing are more desireable because of their ability to feed more reliably.

I could be remembering wrong, and maybe you're not the one I was think of. But if I remembered right, then that would be a condradiction.
 
Gatehouse said:
Lets not take this out of context- Here is the full statement:


I always get a big laugh about how a new cartridge will bring out the worst in some people. It's as if it's a personal attack on them!


Some people view new cartridges as a personal attack on them..That was my point.

I don't hate the H&H. When WSM's came out, some people just had to hate them. When the NEW KING came out, some people had to hate it. And so it goes for new cartridges. Some people have to hate them. There are some cartridges I prefer over others, some new, some very old- but I don't hate any.
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Well, I just read this post right after my posting above. It must not be you, Gatehouse, whom I was thinking of as putting out the hate on the WSM's.

I know you hate the Tikka rifles.
I know you love Ruger rifles. Those two points we've discussed before.
I know you love the 375Ruger. That's obvious.
And I thought you were anti-WSM as well. My mistake on this last point.
 
Huntin' Gun said:
Well, I just read this post right after my posting above. It must not be you, Gatehouse, whom I was thinking of as putting out the hate on the WSM's.

I know you hate the Tikka rifles.
I know you love Ruger rifles. Those two points we've discussed before.
I know you love the 375Ruger. That's obvious.
And I thought you were anti-WSM as well. My mistake on this last point.
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I'm not anti WSM, I even have a 300WSM and it's my favorite rifle! I use old cartridges like 45 Colt and 303 British and new ones like WSM's and NEW KING's and everything in between. :)
 
Gatehouse said:
Some people have said that they wouldn't look at the NEW KING due to my enthusiasm, but I think they didn't really want one to begin with. I also think it's pretty funny, because they must be so weak minded and petty to get "turned off" to an excellent cartridge based on one guy having some fun on the intraweb. ;)

I always get a big laugh about how a new cartridge will bring out the worst in some people. It's as if it's a personal attack on them! :)

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING! :)
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Holy crap your thick to get through to.

Look above where you called them "they must be so weak minded and petty", your gonna call people idiots (ya Im paraphrasing week-minded and petty) and then there's all this animosity, and then you think somethings wrong with them because they're scared of a new caliber.

Unbelievable, either your just not getting it, or else your maybe a troll looking to cause arguements. Im on the fence still.
 
Regarding the .416 rugers, they look pretty sweet as well, though they dont seem to be very popular, I suspect its the large size and recoil for it to be needed for NA game (excluding AK).

Same with the 375R, I think folks like the caliber but those that have and sell them soon after maybe bit off a bit more then they could chew recoil wise. The 375 with a bit more steel for a longer action may tame it down by a margin, but I suspect folks buying them are doing so with dreams or plans of africa and know that recoil is a compromise, where as those looking to purchase the 375R are using them more so for north america where the recoil is more then you need for hunting white tail or moose. Just my opinion.

Woulda liked to see a 375 WSM by the way, not to compete with the others mentioned in the thread but I think it coulda been an interesting chambering as well.
 
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I think the 375 Ruger cartridge itself is ok, as others have said the functioning issues that I have encountered have been because of the rifle not the cartridge itself. As I type this, I'm pondering the idea of turning one of my pre-64 Mod. 70s into a 375 Ruger, same principle, short barrel and synthetic stock.... might be a good useful build because those old Mod. 70s are as smooth as glass...
 
On paper the Ruger seems a "better" cartridge, due to it's standard length and more efficient, modern design.

The problem is that, in terms of performance, the Ruger was clearly going after the .375 H&H, which basically "owns" the .375 cal market, and which the Ruger chambering could not out perform.

The .375 RUM and .378 Weatherby at least offer a clear perfomance difference over the .375 H&H to differentiate them, and so they were not really introduced to take direct aim at the .375 H&H, any more than the 300 winmag was introduced to take aim at the 30-06.

The Ruger cartridge is a good one; they just picked the wrong fight when introducing it.
 
There isnt much difference in recoil between a fast 30 cal mag and a 375 ruger with 250ttsx/260nabs. Plenty of people use fast 30s each year to blast deer at 100 yards.

I like my 375r Alaskan quite a bit. Very handy and a lot less bulky than the 375hhs I had (brno602, cz550, m70 safari express). I do hate the rubber stock on the alaskan and have ordered a McMillan instead.

cody c said:
Regarding the .416 rugers, they look pretty sweet as well, though they dont seem to be very popular, I suspect its the large size and recoil.

Same with the 375R, I think folks like the caliber but those that have and sell them soon after maybe bit off a bit more then they could chew recoil wise. The 375 with a bit more steel for a longer action may tame it down by a margin, but I suspect folks buying them are doing so with dreams or plans of africa and know that recoil is a compromise, where as those looking to purchase the 375R are using them more so for north america where the recoil is more then you need for hunting white tail or moose. Just my opinion.

Woulda liked to see a 375 WSM by the way, not to compete with the others mentioned in the thread but I think it coulda been an interesting chambering as well.
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I ordered a McMillan for mine and in spite of the fact that I special ordered it to fit me, it just didn't feel right.
The Hogue went back on the rifle and I gave the Mac away at a gun show.
Oddly enough the Hogue simply feels better to me.
 
cody c said:
Holy crap your thick to get through to.

Look above where you called them "they must be so weak minded and petty", your gonna call people idiots (ya Im paraphrasing week-minded and petty) and then there's all this animosity, and then you think somethings wrong with them because they're scared of a new caliber.

Unbelievable, either your just not getting it, or else your maybe a troll looking to cause arguements. Im on the fence still.
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I don't think you are getting it. I don't care if someone wants cartridge X or cartridge Y. They should shoot whatever makes them happy.


If they base their cartridge choice solely on the dislike of one guy on the internet that they haven't met and don't know, then yes, they are indeed an idiot. I hope that is about as clear as I can get.

All the negative stuff that get's hurled at me just rolls off my back. I like the 375 Ruger. I like extolling it's virtues. I like to have fun promoting it. When it was introduced several years ago, I named it the NEW KING because I knew it would get a huge reaction. It's probably one of the most talked about cartridges on CGN Hunting Arms forum because of that. The longest thread in this forum was on the NEW KING.

But, ultimately, this is just the internet, and I'm but one guy who is having fun talking about a favorite cartridge. ;)
 
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