375 Ruger here to stay?

Just another redundant cartridge, which doesn't do anything that isn't already being done and better. Only reason you're hypeing it is because it's based on the 375 Ruger case. My 7mm RUM will do everything this will do and more with less pressure and even greater case life, as will the 7 STW. Hell the 7 RM will do this from a 26" tube and I can get 5000 Win cases if I like!!! I see no benefit to another cartridge that is handicapped by being stuck with Horn brass. Of coarse being stuck with Horn brass they had to make a HUGE deal out of brass life, which is not nearly as much of a concern with the 7RM, 7mm RUM or even the 7 STW, 'cause we can just go buy more!!!! Then there is the Dakota line up of 2.5" high capacity cases bases on the Jeffrey which again make this wildcat look even less viable.
Trust you Gatehouse to back yet another loser cartridge!!!!!!!
You can scoff me all you like but I'm still looking for the original article that said sales of rifles and ammo was waning for the 375 Ruger, and when I find it I'll get someone who knows how, to show me how, to post it for all to see. You of coarse will just dismiss it as another internet untruth, you are just like a very dear friend of mine who died a couple of years back of cancer. He went to his grave denying vehemently that there was anything wrong with him, so it is with you and the 375 Ruger!! The only difference I can see, is that I liked him!!!


ALL HAIL THE TRUE KING.............375 H&H
 
c-fbmi said:
Just another redundant cartridge, which doesn't do anything that isn't already being done and better. Only reason you're hypeing it is because it's based on the 375 Ruger case. My 7mm RUM will do everything this will do and more with less pressure and even greater case life, as will the 7 STW. Hell the 7 RM will do this from a 26" tube and I can get 5000 Win cases if I like!!!
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Gatehouse with a statement about a "useless" belt, magnum boltface or full length magnum action in 3...2....1... :)


Personally, I think the 7mm Dakota has a better ring to the name, and you don't have to say "Gunwerks, with an "e" " when explaining who developed the caliber. ;)
 
Just posting it for interests sake. I'm sure I could go through many rifle collections and find heaps of redundant cartridges. Actually, the 7STW is a good example of redundancy. Doesn't offer enough more than the 7RM to make a difference in the field.

And we all know that your "industry secret information" is a load of horseschit!!
 
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I don't know why yoi guys get so worked up about this. Does the .375 Ruger have something to offer? Yep. Is it somewhat redundant? Yep, but so are many of our favorite cartridges. C-fbmi, you're a fan of the .257 bob are you not? It fills a niche, but is also somewhat redundant, just like the .375 Ruger. So who really cares?
 
Looking at the new 7mm LR KING it does seem to be a very balanced cartridge, just like it's parent cartridge. That's what the NEW KING has always been about- perfect balance. Not too fast, not too slow, no unnecessary belt, take full advantage of the whole diameter of the case....Perfect balance. :)
 
I haven't shot the new King (375 Ruger African)since this afternoon, time to retire the antiquated belted H&H, really there is nothing that the H&H does that the Ruger cannot equal or better. For many years I thought about an H&H and finally decide on a modern more efficient 375. The only reason people hang on with the H&H is some bizarre romantic connection with the past and the odd reasoning that it just has to be around forever.
 
The "romantic connection with the past", bizarre or otherwise, is a perfectly legitimate reason to "hang on" with the H&H, but certainly not the only one. If you have been loading, shooting and hunting with the H&H for years or decades, as many of us have, what earthly reason could be presented that would make us want to downgrade to the newer round? Ruger did not improve the performance of the H&H, they merely duplicated it. They did kill two birds with one stone, however: they managed to get their name on a .375-caliber cartridge, which I suppose is a marketing achievement of some sort, and they created an excuse to drop their magnum-length action in favour of the standard one, which certainly saves a bit of money for them and for their victims...er, customers. Big deal. I can almost understand a newcomer to the .375 world choosing the cartridge chambered in a slightly cheaper rifle, if cost is the only factor considered. Maybe the ammo is cheaper...if I ever actually see a box, I'll check that. But how many shooters who are on such tight budgets are going to be shooting .375's of any ilk?

Oh, geez, I almost forgot...the gun can be a couple of inches shorter, and I might be able to shave a fraction of an inch off the bolt throw. Perfectly logical reasons to switch guns, brass, dies and start from scratch...if you have a short attention span!:)
 
If Ruger also produce a rifle chambered in 375 HH, it will be more successful than what they do on 375 Ruger. the availability of reloading components is one of the most important factor to decide which rifle or cartridge you should buy. I bought 200 9.3 bullets, only to find that my brass are all used. It takes time and money to order from Tradeex.
 
cam1936 said:
I don't know why yoi guys get so worked up about this. Does the .375 Ruger have something to offer? Yep. Is it somewhat redundant? Yep, but so are many of our favorite cartridges. C-fbmi, you're a fan of the .257 bob are you not? It fills a niche, but is also somewhat redundant, just like the .375 Ruger. So who really cares?
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Actually the 257 Bob is just a passing fancy for me for nostalgic reasons, my favorite 1/4" bore is, and always has been the 257 Roy.
Gatehouse......my industry secret is a load of horseschit? Really.........I don't see you posting anything that says different.

ALL HAIL THE TRUE KING ...................375 H&H
 
Gatehouse;

You had better start hoarding brass because the 375 Ruger is dead as a nit and you won't be able to find brass in 5 years. It's just that simple, no other major player has picked up the brass or ammo which tells me it's DEAD !!! And don't even bother to mention Nosler 'cause they're just loading Horn brass..........nothing new or inventive there. You can rant and rave all you like but it is DEAD !!!! And the TRUE KING lives on in all it's previous glory and popularity.
If the 3/8" Ruger is so great then why wouldn't Ruger or Hornady answer my questions as to the sales figures for the last five years..........confidential information my ass, they don't want to admit, like you, that it's dead meat!!!!!!!!!!

ALL HAIL THE TRUE KING..........
 
Winchester - 0 .375R in catalogue
Remington - 0 .375R in catalogue
CZ - 0 .375R in catalogue
Sako/Tikka - 0 .375R in catalogue
Weatherby - 0 .375R in catalogue
Savage - several models have .375R chambering
Ruger - several models have .375R chambering

RCBS does not list a die set for .375R... !? (surprised me)
Hornady lists .375R dies
Lee Precision does not list a die set for .375R
Lyman does not list a die set for .375R
Redding lists .375R dies
Forester does not list a dies set for .375R



The only thing that matters in this ####ING STUPID DEBATE...

A 270gr or 300gr .375cal bullet will kill anything that walks, as long as you can delivery that bullet accurately.

I own a .375H&H.
 
This debate has nothing to do with the effectiveness of Rugers 3/8" offering, as it's ballistics virtually are identical or even a touch better than the TRUE KING. My entire premise is that it will die off into oblivion for just this reason, it does nothing new. The fact that 5 years have now past without a single major ammo company jumping on the bandwagon to make ammo or brass available for it, tells us all what is in the future. The fact that only a couple low end makers have added this caliber to their line-ups is another telling feature as to the future of this dead cartridge.
Your research as to rifle company and reloading company offerings in this caliber show exactly what I've been saying, as far as loaded ammo companies....................it's even more telling.
Gatehouse has become "The Queen of Denial", where this cartridge is concerned, and as such is giving bad advice to others in hope of increasing sales so his stillborn baby doesn't get buried, quite yet. Now that Ruger has changed and put this cartridge into one of the ugliest platforms I've seen in many years, I think we can all say goodbye to the 375 Ruger, once and for all.
The 375 and up market is a very small market in the world of guns and hunters. It has been very well served with all the old proven, heavy game getters. All new entries into this market will usually fail because there is no niche for them to take hold. Look at the rash of 416s following the introduction of the 416 Rem, all of which are no longer available, except the original 416 Rigby, which didn't need improving. The 458 Lott has succeeded because the 458 Win did not live up to it's reported ballistics so a niche was there which needed a cartridge to fill and the Lott did it nicely. Add to these the old 404 Jeff, 450/400 NE, 500 NE, the 470 NE, the 375 H&H, 378 and 460 Wby for the extreme, and there just is no room for the 3/8" Ruger, 416 Ruger, 416 Rem or Wby, etc.
 
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