390 yard moose kill

[rkr]

I've found this video and looks like the guy shot a moose from 390 yards so I'm curious how far one can actually shoot with a ML? I'm not confident over 250 yards with both: ML or bolt action.

 

[6MT]

Pretty cool!!

 

[Superbrad]

Complete BS IMOP..... A 50 cal muzzleloader pushed at 1800fps has about 28" of drop at 220 yards..... Let alone 390?

 

[The Kurgan]

I find it hard to believe as well... maybe the moose died of a stroke after being smacked with a projectile going 400 fps?

 

[mooncoon]

I find it hard to believe that there was a hole through all of that brush to allow a prone shot at the moose. I think it would take very little to deflect a bullet striking one or more twigs along the way

cheers mooncoon

 

[tacfoley]

Ball or REAL? Or a sabot something or other? What mv?

Here is one version drop chart of a 178gr ball with an mv of 1800fps shot at an altitude of 2000ft AMSL - from

http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/rbballistics/web_apps/rb_ballistics.html


Yards..Vel....Energy...Drop...Drift....TOF(sec)

0 1800 1280 -0.5 0.0 0.000
2 1778 1249 -0.4 0.0 0.003
4 1756 1218 -0.3 0.0 0.006
6 1727 1179 -0.2 0.0 0.010
8 1706 1150 -0.1 0.0 0.013
10 1679 1114 -0.1 0.0 0.017
15 1621 1038 0.1 0.0 0.026
20 1566 969 0.2 0.0 0.035
25 1509 900 0.3 0.0 0.045
30 1456 837 0.4 0.0 0.055
35 1402 777 0.3 0.0 0.066
40 1358 729 0.3 0.0 0.076
45 1311 679 0.2 0.0 0.088
50 1271 638 0.0 0.0 0.099
75 1106 483 -2.0 0.0 0.163
100 1012 405 -6.3 0.0 0.234
125 937 347 -13.2 0.0 0.311
150 873 301 -23.3 0.0 0.394
175 817 264 -37.2 0.0 0.483
200 763 230 -55.4 0.0 0.578
225 712 200 -79.0 0.0 0.680
250 663 174 -108.7 0.0 0.789
275 616 150 -145.8 0.0 0.906
300 571 129 -192.1 0.0 1.033
325 528 110 -248.8 0.0 1.169
350 487 94 -318.6 0.0 1.317
375 449 79 -403.7] 0.0 1.477
400 411 67 -508.2 0.0 1.652

And for a 250gr R.E.A.L bullet at the same velocity...

Yards..Vel....Energy...Drop...Drift....TOF(sec)

0 1800 1798 -0.5 0.0 0.000
2 1784 1766 -0.4 0.0 0.003
4 1768 1735 -0.3 0.0 0.006
6 1748 1695 -0.3 0.0 0.010
8 1732 1666 -0.2 0.0 0.013
10 1712 1628 -0.1 0.0 0.017
15 1674 1555 0.0 0.0 0.025
20 1628 1471 0.1 0.0 0.035
25 1588 1400 0.2 0.0 0.044
30 1550 1334 0.3 0.0 0.053
35 1510 1266 0.3 0.0 0.063
40 1472 1202 0.2 0.0 0.073
45 1432 1138 0.1 0.0 0.084
50 1398 1085 0.0 0.0 0.094
75 1243 858 -1.6 0.0 0.151
100 1125 702 -5.0 0.0 0.215
125 1049 610 -10.6 0.0 0.284
150 990 544 -18.6 0.0 0.358
175 939 489 -29.3 0.0 0.435
200 892 442 -43.3 0.0 0.517
225 849 400 -61.0 0.0 0.604
250 810 364 -82.4 0.0 0.694
275 772 331 -108.5 0.0 0.789
300 735 300 -139.5 0.0 0.888
325 700 272 -176.5 0.0 0.993
350 665 245 -219.9 0.0 1.103
375 631 221 -270.8 0.0 1.219
400 598 199 -330.0 0.0 1.341

tac

 

[galamb]

Maybe his rangefinder was set to "feet".

 

[plinker 777]

No.

 

[The Kurgan]

178 grain ball... hmmmm

Yards..Vel....Energy...Drop...Drift....TOF(sec)
400 411 67 -508.2 0.0 1.652

I'd don't think would kill a jack rabbit!

 

[tonyg]

Good video of the hunt conclusion. But I have been deceived too many times by fake videos .
Won't say it could never happen , but I have become a very sceptical person.

 

[Robert Nicholson]

Did the second shot make the moose react like it had been hit? Or is it more likely that someone shot it with another rifle and they deleted the sound?
Were they claiming that the first shot actually hit the moose? "he moves in for a follow-up shot"

 

[gunsaholic]

And probably while he was shooting, in his mind he was singing the Tanya Tucker song "step back down believers, or the rain will never come. And if you still think I'm lying to ya look a yonder here comes the rain".

 

[kc34]

The farthest I have taken an animal with my muzzle loader was a whitetail buck at 175 yards and the 250grain sabot was falling like a rock at that range. I just caught the bottom of his chest and a couple more inches of drop and it would of missed him cleanly.

 

[Kelly Timoffee]

Ask Jim Shockey , he has enough ML records.

 

[nowarningshot]

That show on Wild TV, long range pursuit, makes a long range muzzleloader. Using the balistic rangefinders and all the expensive toys and optics they use on the custom CF rifles they build. Pretty sure they shoot over 300.

Most areas with muzzleloader seasons, have exclusive seasons for a week or two before the rifle season. Not sure i would invest the sort of money it would take to get a long range muzzleloader given the limited exclusive season.

 

[Kondor]

He looked to be using a Nikon rangefinder, haven't heard anything good about them, probably wasn't actually 390, a good distance still

 

[burnt_servo]

he was shooting up hill , that would shorten the distance up a bit in terms of bullet drop .......


but I noticed makes me think it is fake ......

where is the "thud" after the shot , when the bullet strikes the moose ?

I would expect a 50 caliber bullet to make a decent amount of impact noise ...... unless the lower velocity of the muzzle loader takes away from that .

for what it is worth the video really feels similar to any thing reality based from discovery channel ( in other words fake )

 

[rkr]

imho I'd say 150 yards should be the limit for ML shooting. Most ppl I know don't shoot over 100 yards anyway.

 

[tokguy]

Read up on historical sniping , e.i. Whitworth rifle. They do have more 'Legs' than thought.
Just not for moose, IMO

 

[plinker 777]

^ Even if possible (I'll stand on No.), ethically why would anyone even try? Inside a 100 yards its meat in the freezer, outside a 100 yards means you have to stalk closer, or call him to you.