40 S&Ws Suck

Melnibonean said:
He has 2 more zanier ones that top this. One is "Bullpups suck" (which MAC posted a rebuttal) and the other classic "1911s suck". You can find them on YouTube, if you feel your blood pressure is too low and needs a boost.

Thanks for posting that pic of your USP. The barrel has polygonal rifling, right? Do you find it makes a difference vs standard rifling?
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Like I said, this YouTube guy is an idiot. Just yelling "fire" in a crowded room to see the scramble.

I love my USP, only can compare it to my Sig 226 in 40 which I also like. I can shoot both pretty well so I really can't say so. Sig 226 fits better, but the USP has great balance for a polymer pistol and the recoil reduction system works great.
 
The only thing that sucks about the .40S&W is the cost of retail ammo; the stuff is priced like .45ACP which isn't right.
 
Max Owner said:
I think we all made this thread what it is.
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Melnibonean said:
I posted it as a general interest piece and because he is known (for good or for ill) in the YouTube-verse, and his other videos have been posted here as well and discussed (usually dismissed) before, so don't shoot (figuratively speaking) the messenger!
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OP - point taken and apologies for my snarky posts. The anti-40S&W threads always get under my skin. :ang3
 
I have been told the M&P was designed around the .40cal. primariliy because the gun's target market was the US LEO market and the guns main competitor the Glock 22.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
Kabooms????Only if you have an early Glock, later models have fully supported chambers. Of the three you list the .45acp I would think this round would be the less likely to kaboom given the low pressures the cartridge runs at. Common in the 40cal, what is your source for that info?
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There was a Glock kaboom FAQ:

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

Apparently, the hoop stress factor (a larger-diameter pressure vessel is inherently weaker) is the major issue. This also seems to be a problem with the .45, despite its even lower case pressure. Kabooms seem to be rare with 9x19s, as well as the .40-sized 10mm and .357 Sig cases (the latter two have very beefy brass).

The .40 S&W is an excellent, functional round, and some people seem to have had exceptional results with certain reloading recipes:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-38484.html

Buy, if I was allowed to carry a pistol for self defense (or even allowed to have mine in the home without two locks), I don't think I'd bother with a .40, or .45, let alone a .357 Sig. 50-odd pound-feet is not worth the extra cost and such. A garden variety old pump shotgun beats any of the above in spades, in terms of 'stopping power,' and doesn't have the Restricted legal issues, for home defense.
 
agent666 said:
there was a glock kaboom faq:

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

apparently, the hoop stress factor (a larger-diameter pressure vessel is inherently weaker) is the major issue. This also seems to be a problem with the .45, despite its even lower case pressure. Kabooms seem to be rare with 9x19s, as well as the .40-sized 10mm and .357 sig cases (the latter two have very beefy brass).

The .40 s&w is an excellent, functional round, and some people seem to have had exceptional results with certain reloading recipes:

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-38484.html

buy, if i was allowed to carry a pistol for self defense (or even allowed to have mine in the home without two locks), i don't think i'd bother with a .40, or .45, let alone a .357 sig. 50-odd pound-feet is not worth the extra cost and such. a garden variety old pump shotgun beats any of the above in spades, in terms of 'stopping power,' and doesn't have the restricted legal issues, for home defense.
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Exactly, couldn't agree more.
 
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