.416 owners, the ultimate big game hunting cartridge?

pathfinder76 said:
I spoke with D’Arcy Echols about that. He has had that particular rifle in his shop. He had had enquires about building a copy on that same action. He advised that there was no need to do such a stupid thing. And Selby building from scratch wouldn’t do it either.
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He only bought that rifle because his double was run over by a Land Rover wasn’t it?
 
pathfinder76 said:
I spoke with D’Arcy Echols about that. He has had that particular rifle in his shop. He had had enquires about building a copy on that same action. He advised that there was no need to do such a stupid thing. And Selby building from scratch wouldn’t do it either.
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pathfinder76,

Now, just to be sure and four square on all sides, D'Arcy Echols had Harry Selby's Mauser 98 .416 Rigby in his shop and people asked him - D'Arcy Echols - to build copies of that very specific rifle and then D'Arcy Echols refused because he tought that it was a stupid thing to do ? Right ? And the reason it was stupid, according to D'Arcy Echols, was precisely because that rifle had its feed ramp cut to increase the length of the magazine ? Right ?

Now, it seems to me that D'Arcy Echols knows a thing or three about Mauser 98 rifles, no ?
 
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Yes. Sort of (I don’t know that they we’re putting money down with Echols, just inquiring about the idea) There are genuine Magnum Mauser actions that would make more sense to build a rifle on around that cartridge. Rigby does it themselves.
 
pathfinder76 said:
Is that a function of rounds down the bore or the components used in the ammunition? I also asked a gun writer about this rebarrel job. I’ve seen before and after photos of this rifle and the exterior of the barrel, including wear, does not appear to have changed any. He got back to me and agreed with the observation. He was going to get back to me on what he found out, and never did.
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I think it’s pretty inconsequential, it’s clearly a substantial amount of use whether it was cordite and mercuric primers, or straight shooting volume that did it. I’d say there’s little question a magnum action is a better choice, and on the other side of the leaf little question the standard 98 manages as well when called upon.
 
Not hunting exclusively with my .416's most noteworthy game taken to date with other calibers. Rifles I decide to take sometimes on a whim or depends on location next time I take a different 1 these all get field time.
 
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Barnes Reloading Manual #3 (2001): reviewing this making handloads for my .416 Wby, they list .416 Rigby load data for modern bolt rifles only forgot about that an exception to other reloading manuals although it's for their discontinued 400gr XLC 2673 fps max still wasn't as fast as .416 Wby at ~2800 fps max. However they don't specify which modern bolt rifles.

Approx. cost to handload .416 Wby: 1.80 Barnes TSX + 0.80 Re19 + 0.10 Fed 215 + 6.00/case say 6x resized =~$3.70 ea.

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Have not read all of these replies, but man, my 416 rem absolutely flattens moose. I have shot four with it now and it really is amazing to watch them react so poorly to being g hit by it.

I feel it bridges the gap between 375 and 458 well enough to make owing a rifle in either calibre more of a "want" than a "need", but truthfully we could all get along pretty well with nothing more than a .22, a 12 gauge, and a 30-06, so I don't think that argument really holds much water.
 
$17,000 is way above my price point. I could stomach the cost of 416 Rigby
Ammo in a Sako or Winchester, affording a Rigby rifle itself isn't in my cards.
 
I just did a pricing calculator on their website. From what I could remember of its custom options it come out to a conservative 16,000 GBP. That is $26,000
 
My BNIB custom shop .416 Weatherby 3g's & change I don't think it will malfunction my other .416's have never malfunctioned in the field however individual results may vary.

Factory loads not that much more than components cost if on sale/in stock example 189.99 - https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/weatherby-416-wby-magnum-350gr-triple-shock-box-of-20rds/

Add up components cost in a box of 20: cases 120.00 (~6.00 ea) + bullets 36.00 (~1.80 ea) + powder 16.00 (~0.80 per charge) + 2.00 primers (0.10 ea) = ~174.00
 
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Northern Shooter said:
$17,000 is way above my price point. I could stomach the cost of 416 Rigby
Ammo in a Sako or Winchester, affording a Rigby rifle itself isn't in my cards.
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I went up to a Holland & Holland Royal .375 double rifle worth a new truck, even carried it at work for a bit outfitting and flying. In the end I have to acknowledge what I kept and still use today are commercial sporting Mausers and Winchesters.

That isn’t to say the H&H wasn’t nice, it was superb. But for a working gun, in the end the quality basics are the right tool.
 
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