I have used a Marlin 45-70 for bear control in oat fields and bee hives, in the Peace country for years. The inexpensive 350 grain Hornady round nose is IMPOSSIBLE to beat for knocking over bear, moose, deer or Peterbuilts. Not fancy, and not expensice but there are a few hundred less bears in the Peace county because of them. I tried MANY others, (some of the cast were equal but I don't cast and buying them they were the same price as the Hornady's). If any of the many bullets I tried had worked better I would have used it.