45 ACP brass

Johnn Peterson

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I was out to the range the other day and a 'usual' first order of business is a quick check for brass that's been left behind. Even though I'm not short of 45 ACP, I couldn't resist picking up about a handful of it that had been left. Taking a look at the head stamp reads '45 AUTO WIN NT'. What's really strange, to me anyway, is it appears to be made to accept small pistol, or possibly small rifle primers VS the usual large pistol primers. How long has this variation been available? Going to SP primers, whereas most manufacturers go with LP, what is the rationale behind that? Last but not least, what does NT signify or designate?
 
Non-toxic, as in no lead in primer. Primer pockets are also crimped. If you get enough of it, it's good brass for reloading. You just need to keep it separated or you'll need to separate it every time you want to load it.

ETA bullets were also likely fully jacketted to avoid lead from the bullet base, but those are gone now, anyway
 
As mentioned above, non toxic. Also watch for Federal NT or FC NT. Its actually been around for some time now. I think I first came across it 5yrs ago +/-. Works just dandy with SPP's if u remove the crimp(if applicable).
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a lot of people dont seem to want them, I picked up a few hundred at my small range and they are great (once crimp is removed)
 
Thanks guys. I recall seeing a similar circular stamp crimp on some military ammo. I wonder why the chioce of different sized primers though, although taking into consideration the actual volume of powder, a smaller primer is probably more than sufficient.

Deviating a bit but in line with crimps on primers, there used to be what is called star crimp on the primers of some forgotten name of 9mm brass. Going way back, for some of my local pistol shooting and reloading buddies, this star crimp brass was the # 1 choice and much sot after as I recall.:)Time flies when you're havin' fun.
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Been around for years, John. Ya gotta get out more......;)

:redface:You're right. When I first got into serious paper punching I was using a custom 1911. Then;)afflicted with illusions of grandeur, I went to a Walther GSP. Great gun, shot extremely well but it was uglier than a mud fence.

Now that bullseye shooting is no longer a focus for me, as of late I've picked up a few items chambered for 45 ACP, as shooters. Most of my present focus handgun shooting is plinking and long range shooting so the 45 ACP is just another caliber to play with. One of my recently acquired favorites able to handle that cartridge is a SS Ruger Blackhawk convertable.

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But again, you're right,;). I gotta' get out more.
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"...why the chioce of different sized primers though..." Winchester doesn't think it should be reloaded. Can't be with NT primers either. Pitch it.
 
winchester wants you to buy more ammo and not reload period. I had good results and its an alternative if large pistol primers become more expensive than small pistol primers
 
Winchester white box is like that, I just bought a box. Not particularly pleased, one primer out of thirteen shots so far needed two hits to go off in my Webley. I'd rather have the lpp, I wouldn't have bought these if I knew they were spp, nor was I expecting it, because I bought lpp alongside this box of ammo. Took them out was like, since when...
 
Winchester white box is like that, I just bought a box. Not particularly pleased, one primer out of thirteen shots so far needed two hits to go off in my Webley. I'd rather have the lpp, I wouldn't have bought these if I knew they were spp, nor was I expecting it, because I bought lpp alongside this box of ammo. Took them out was like, since when...

I picked up a Webley Mark VI in 455 but I haven't bought any ammo for it. I got a quantity of brass from Henry and I get my cast HB bullets from a friend locally.

When I went for the purchase of a couple of 45 ACP's I was looking for an inexpensive source of ammo, something like military surplus I could burn up and not be too concerned about retrieving brass. Long story short, I got a price of $18.oo/ box of 50 from Henry Nierychlo on site so I went for 500. What it is, is what he called 'factory reloads'. The price was right. I couldn't locate jacketed bullets themselves for that price.
 
I happened upon a bunch of small-primered 45 ACP brass about 30 yrs. ago.
Took some to a buddy who was an RCMP ident. guy and he found out that it was Russian mfg. It seems to reload as well as any large-primered stuff...
 
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