.50 Beowulf 3rd Party Magazines

Where do we donate money to fight this BS? I will give to help this fight. We as gun owners have power, all of us on this site can make change if we all stand as one. How many members are on here? That is a big voice and a bunch of votes for when it comes to electing these so called leaders. Time to write some letters? This is injustice at its finest. Did they feel like Canada is going to be safer now that they came to their decision?
 
Am I the only one that isn't at all surprised by this outcome? NR I hope in the future your time and money will be spent more wisely. But regardless thanks for trying.
 
The X-Rail situation was a bit different, imo. This situation is more closely related to Point # 5 on their website, quoted below :

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5. Magazines for semiautomatic handguns which contain more than ten (10) rounds of a different calibre

Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun, are limited to 10 cartridges. The capacity is measured by the kind of cartridge the magazine was designed to contain. In some cases the magazine will be capable of containing more than 10 rounds of a different caliber; however that is not relevant in the determination of the maximum permitted capacity.

Example:
Heckler and Koch P7 pistol chambered for 9mm Luger caliber:
The magazine designed for the 40 S&W calibre variant of the pistol will hold 13 cartridges of 9mm Luger calibre and function in the 9mm Luger calibre P7 pistol. This is permissible as the maximum permitted capacity of the 40 S&W calibre magazine must be measured by the number of 40 S&W calibre cartridges it is capable of holding, which is 10 such cartridges in the case of the HK P7 pistol magazine.

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The LAR situation is a bit different (pistol mag being used in a rifle) again. Either way, I feel it should be legal though I understand how they feel it circumvents the spirit of the law. Of course the counter-argument is that the law should have been written better in the first place.
 
I still feel that if this situation hadnt blown up into lib media fear-fest, and instead wouldve been kept on the DL until projects like this were approved, the RCMP wouldnt have felt it necessary to go against precedence.
 
I hear ya man. I still feel like we need to get as many of these mags into Canadian hands as possible. We all know that many firearm owners in Canada won't take on the fight unless they have something tangible to lose themselves. The more voices the better, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to deem the AA mags dual-function as well.
 
Who knows? "Dual use" is a BS term as it is. By the wording on their own website, quoted above, any magazine marked "Beowulf" should be legal. They admit that there are legal magazines that can function in different calibers, and they fail to identify what separates these permitted magazines from a "dual use" magazine, or even what "dual use" specifically means. Hokus pokus, watch me make your fun disappear.
 
I just posted the longest rant about how I see our gun laws and how they are clearly put into place to benefit the government, not civilians , but decided to erase it, bottom line is, this does not surprise me at all, and if in the future our magazine capacity laws are rewritten , it wont shock me either.
 
computermike said:
Where in the Firearms act does it make mention of dual use magazines? The RCMP don't get to make laws up as they go, just enforce the ones already put in place by democratically elected officials.

What can we do about this?
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It's not "enforcing" that is the problem in this case, it's "interpreting" that is the issue. One can interpret just about any statement to mean anything. In this case, by choosing not to follow Section 84 of the Criminal Code in a clear cut manner (ie. 5 rounds MAX for the magazine's intended calibre and manufacture - which was clearly in this case to be .50 Beowulf), they're really opening a can of worms by creating this "dual use" term. Any magazine that can hold different calibres is in touble of being forced into only accepting the lowest number of cartridges possible. It will only take one judge and one verdict for the RCMP to turn Section 84 of the criminal code upside down and force all gun owners in Canada to move their rivets up even further. I doubt even the RCMP would want to see the re-percussions of that outcome. They'll immediately piss off a couple million people (at the least), and they'll be causing a huge headache for the provinces and their hunting regs.
 
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Beav said:
Unless they own a 50 cal upper
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The thing is there is no cartridge that's called .50 caliber( if I'm not mistaken they list it as a .50 cal magazine but I can't find it anymore). It would be like making a magazine that fit in a m14 and calling it a .75 caliber magazine so you can get 10-12 or so round in them.

It's sucks your project didn't work out but please hang in there and don't let all your hard work be lost we can let them win.
 
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