$500 Swiss Arms rifles WTB ad?

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caramel said:
For sure if i am to loose it, i will have a load of fun with my new 24 volt ion-lithium battery Bosh Zip cut grinder, and cut it all down in tiny pieces, filming the hole scene and showing to some fellow shooters, what i do to a rifle that wont group, in stupidy might as well have some fun... JP.
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I hope you file a section 74 if these go prohib. Probably the only benefit I've found to a existing Quebec registry.
 
74. (1) Subject to subsection (2), where

(a) a chief firearms officer or the Registrar refuses to issue or revokes a licence, registration certificate, authorization to transport, authorization to export or authorization to import,

(b) a chief firearms officer decides under section 67 that a firearm possessed by an individual who holds a licence is not being used for a purpose described in section 28, or

(c) a provincial minister refuses to approve or revokes the approval of a shooting club or shooting range for the purposes of this Act,

the applicant for or holder of the licence, registration certificate, authorization or approval may refer the matter to a provincial court judge in the territorial division in which the applicant or holder resides.

Marginal note:Limitation period
(2) An applicant or holder may only refer a matter to a provincial court judge under subsection (1) within thirty days after receiving notice of the decision of the chief firearms officer, Registrar or provincial minister under section 29, 67 or 72 or within such further time as is allowed by a provincial court judge, whether before or after the expiration of those thirty days.


I'm not sure what part your reading that is going to benefit us in any way. Am I missing something?
 
We should start a fund from money that was going to the CPC party to buy all the guns, then donate the Swiss Arms to a Quebec Naive band.
 
cr5 said:
74. (1) Subject to subsection (2), where

(a) a chief firearms officer or the Registrar refuses to issue or revokes a licence, registration certificate, authorization to transport, authorization to export or authorization to import,

(b) a chief firearms officer decides under section 67 that a firearm possessed by an individual who holds a licence is not being used for a purpose described in section 28, or

(c) a provincial minister refuses to approve or revokes the approval of a shooting club or shooting range for the purposes of this Act,

the applicant for or holder of the licence, registration certificate, authorization or approval may refer the matter to a provincial court judge in the territorial division in which the applicant or holder resides.

Marginal note:Limitation period
(2) An applicant or holder may only refer a matter to a provincial court judge under subsection (1) within thirty days after receiving notice of the decision of the chief firearms officer, Registrar or provincial minister under section 29, 67 or 72 or within such further time as is allowed by a provincial court judge, whether before or after the expiration of those thirty days.


I'm not sure what part your reading that is going to benefit us in any way. Am I missing something?
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Bolded the relevant part. Swiss Arms are still registered in Quebec.

However Caramel has stated his non-interest, which is of course his right to choose.
 
Profiting by fear-mongering or saddling someone with a known defect is scandalous, IMO. It's unlikely I'd deal with a member knowingly selling a SA rifle without disclosing risk of reclassification.
 
Leibermuster said:
Not sure

Good point though.

That being said if the RCMP drops the hammer on all Swiss Arms you think they will actually compensate all the owners at the price they currently command.
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Would be one way to encourage us to turn them in without fighting back in court and drawing a bunch of attention to this which may generate sympathy from those that didn't know about it before.
Why would they care anyway, would be paying us back with our own tax money anyway. Not like it will come out of their pockets.
Compensation=cooperation
 
Leibermuster said:
Not sure Good point though.

That being said if the RCMP drops the hammer on all Swiss Arms you think they will actually compensate all the owners at the price they currently command.
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The T97 and BD38 owners were compensated at invoice. However, in both cases we were talking about a few dozen guns, and the RCMP had budgeted $240k (which increased to $260k) for the BD38.

Not quite sure where the $3-$5 million in compensation is going to potentially come from. And people wonder why Toews is suddenly getting out of politics...
 
Clobbersauras said:
Well, personally I tend to believe that the ad, like the "joke $100 P-Mag" ads by other members in this forum were not actually jokes or public info experiments. They were just what they were intended, a way to gain something out of fear mongering and paranoia.

It's easy to create a post "explaining" your intentions after you get a bunch of negative comments from the community, but it doesn't really change the initial impression one gets from such behavior.
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However even if his intent is to take advantage of the situation, if somebody decides to sell for that price it is out of their own disingenuous intent to get rid of a supposedly soon to be prohibited rifle to minimize their own loss. Is it inappropriate to offer a low price to buy something that you want from someone who doesn't want it?
 
blaxsun said:
The T97 and BD38 owners were compensated at invoice.
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So what does that mean exactly? If you bought a T97 or BD38 on the EE you're SOL for compensation?

I thought the comensation rate was 100% of the owners. This doesn't seem entirely correct for those who likely didn't buy from a retailer and had an invoice.
 
They didnt offer shxt at beginning. Then they offer $200. In the end they offer full retail ($1500) but without the tax you pay.

That's what I hear from a ex-t97 owner. They guy was going to deactived it but they offer $1500 during the last minute so he took the money instead.

the_klenzer said:
Didn't they return the full retail value on the Type 97?
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loki_81 said:
So what does that mean exactly? If you bought a T97 or BD38 on the EE you're SOL for compensation? I thought the comensation rate was 100% of the owners. This doesn't seem entirely correct for those who likely didn't buy from a retailer and had an invoice.
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I have no idea, as I owned neither and wasn't privy to the process. I only know that in speaking to a few that owned them they were compensated fully (what that entailed I could only speculate). The RCMP didn't budget for the T97; they did budget for the BD38 (which exceeded the allocation). I don't imagine the Swiss Arms was on their radar for 2013, though - and since we're not comparing apples to apples here...

Wait and see, send the bill to TSE... ;)
 
From what my buddy told me who had his BD38 confiscated, a detective came to his home and gave him some sort of receipt to make a claim with the government. He was given full payout of $3500. He actually profited from it, I think he said he had paid $2600 for it when it was new, and he didn't have to show a receipt from when he bought it.
 
blaxsun said:
I have no idea, as I owned neither and wasn't privy to the process. I only know that in speaking to a few that owned them they were compensated fully (what that entailed I could only speculate). The RCMP didn't budget for the T97; they did budget for the BD38 (which exceeded the allocation). I don't imagine the Swiss Arms was on their radar for 2013, though - and since we're not comparing apples to apples here...

Wait and see, send the bill to TSE... ;)
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Gotcha. I'll speak to the former T97 and BD38 owners I know and see if they were first purchasers or not.

No bill for me to send to TSE, but I wonder if the RCMP will send the entire bill to them. :p

Back on topic it's interesting to see how many WTB ads have popped up since the first one by the OP. I understand the OP's intentions and he's stated them clearly, but the amount of copy ads are pretty interesting to say the least.
 
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