5000 Hunts Taken from BC Resident Hunters *MARCH 2 RALLY at the LEGISLATURE*

How was the 5,000 number calculated? The number I've most commonly heard is 690 which is significant in its own right but just curious how the 5,000 was arrived at?

Not sure exactly how the calculations arrive at 5000 TJ perhaps a call to the BCWF or visit to the government site listed below would give more details.

News Release: Sweeping changes to B.C.’s wildlife allocations could result in 5,000 fewer hunting permits going to residents

December 10th, 2014

Sweeping changes to B.C.’s Wildlife Allocation Policy proposed by the Guide-Outfitters Association of B.C. would dramatically reduce residents’ access to wild game and increase the number of permits sold to foreign big game trophy hunters, according to the B.C. Wildlife Federation (BCWF). This proposed change could result in 5,000 fewer hunting permits going to B.C. residents.

Most jurisdictions across North America give foreign hunters 5-10 percent of the harvestable surplus of wildlife. The changes proposed by the Guide-Outfitters Association of B.C., which represents 210 outfitters who have exclusive rights to guide trophy hunters, would give foreign hunters up to 40 percent of specific game species such as mountain sheep, goat and bear, and up to 25 percent of moose and elk.

In 2007 a new Wildlife Allocation Policy was established in B.C. in an attempt to fairly determine the number of hunting permits allocated, which gave foreign hunters the best share of the available hunting permits. Even then, the Guide Outfitters Association of B.C. started vigorously lobbying the government to amend or scrap the new wildlife policy.

“Proposed changes to the Wildlife Allocation Policy are inconsistent with standard practices in otherjurisdictions across Canada and in the United States,” said George Wilson, President of the B.C. Wildlife Federation, which represents 45,000 conservationists. “There is no justification for these changes and they are not supported by B.C.’s resident hunters.”

Over the last 10 years, the number of B.C. hunters has grown by 20 percent, increasing from 84,000 to over 102,000. Over the same period, the number of foreign trophy hunters coming to B.C. has dropped from 6,500 to 4,500, a decline of 30 percent.

Hunting has become increasingly popular in B.C. as more families shyaway from industrially produced meats in favour of organic wild game. This sustainable food movement is particularly popular in northern communities, central B.C. and even the Lower Mainland where people are depending on hunting to fill their freezers and feed their families.

B.C. resident hunters spend over $230 million a year in local communities on hunting related activities and contribute $9 million a year towards conservation work through license fees. Resident hunters also contribute through donations to conservation organizations such as The Nature Trust, and Ducks Unlimited as well as volunteer for conservation activities. B.C. Wildlife Federation members alone dedicate more than 300,000 hours annually to fish, wildlife and habitat conservation projects across the province.

Moose is the most sought after species by B.C.’s resident hunters. In many areas, demand exceeds supply and hunters are placed on a Limited Entry Hunt (LEH) lottery to ensure sustainability. Approximately 70,000 BC hunters apply for 13,000 LEH permits each year, meaning only 1 in 5 hunters get to hunt moose annually. Foreign hunters do not need to apply for a LEH permit, and can hunt annually, taking moose from approximately 3,000 B.C. hunters each year. The proposed changes would see even more British Columbians go without an opportunity to hunt moose.

“B.C. residents who depend on hunting to help sustain their families should be supported by provincial government policy,” said Jesse Zeman, a BCWF director, who hunts with his whole family. “The overriding priority for all hunters is conservation, ensuring there is enough game available for First Nations, and then fulfilling the hunting needs of B.C. families. Any changes to the Wildlife Allocation Policyshould meet the needs of the majority of British Columbians who enjoy the outdoors, spend time with friends and family, and hunt for food.”

Over the past two decades, there has been a steady erosion of hunting permits available to B.C. resident hunters in favour of foreign hunters. For example, non-resident hunting permits for moose in the Kootenay Region have gone from 6 percent in 1991 to 21 percent in 2012, leaving hundreds of Kootenay residents without the opportunity to hunt moose.

The B.C. Wildlife Federation is calling on the BC government to fairly legislate wildlife allocations. The organization does not support giving away more than 10 percent for moose and elk, and 25 percent of mountain goat, sheep, and bears to foreign trophy hunters. Ironically, this gives non-resident hunters the best deal in North America. Several jurisdictions across North America have already set wildlife allocation in law. Saskatchewan limits non-resident moose hunters to 4 percent of the harvestable surplus. Alberta sets non-resident allocations between 2-7 percent with a maximum of 10 percent. Washington State has limited non-resident wildlife allocations to approximately 5 percent.

“Resident hunters firmly believe any policy changes should reflect the best interests of the majority of British Columbians who depend on hunting as a sustainable, healthy food source,” said BCWF President George Wilson. “Our organization is committed to working with the government to protect wildlife and ensure equitable distribution of this resource.”

The following document contains figures and statistics that show the significant economic impacts of resident hunting in B.C.:
BCWF BC Resident Hunter Fact Sheet [PDF]

The BCWF is British Columbia's largest and oldest conservation organization with over 45,000 members passionately committed to protecting, enhancing and promoting the wise use of the environment for the benefit of present and future generations. Visit www.bcwf.bc.ca for more information.

For more information on this issue, contact Jesse Zeman, co-Chair, BCWF Wildlife & Allocations Committee, at 250-878-3799 or jessezeman@gmail.com

For general media inquiries, contact Curtis Ketter, BCWF Marketing and Communications Coordinator at 604-882-9988 ext 233 or marketing@bcwf.bc.ca

For more information on the province’s Wildlife Harvest Allocation Policy, visit http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wildlife/harvest_alloc/


http://www.bcwf.bc.ca/
 
Public Meeting on Wildlife Allocation - Dawson Creek
Tuesday, January 6th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
Calvin Kruk Centre for the Arts
Dawson Creek, B.C.
Hosted by BCWF Region 7B - Peace / Liard

Public Meeting on Wildlife Allocation - Nanaimo
Wednesday, January 21st, 2015 at 7:00 pm
Nanaimo Fish & Game Club
1325 Nanaimo Lakes Rd., Nanaimo, B.C.
Hosted by BCWF Region 1 - Vancouver Island
 
Something is really, really starting to stink in Victoria. Rally- March 2 11:00am at the BC Legislature details to follow

Posted on Hunting BC:

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Its time to blow this up.

Everyone knows that there has been some speculation about the GOABC and the Liberal Party working behind the scenes at the expense of the Resident Hunters of BC.

Throughout digging and searching, I have found the following and let you make your own decisions.




Here is a considerable list of donations from the GOABC to the Liberals


http://contributions.electionsbc.gov.bc.ca/pcs/SA1SearchResults.aspxFilerSK=(ALL)&EDSK=0&File rTypeSK=0&Contributor=outfitter&PartySK=0&ED=%28AL L%29&FilerType=%28ALL%29&Filer=%28ALL%29&Party=%28 ALL%29&DateTo=2015%2f02%2f03&DateFrom=2005%2f01%2f 01&DFYear=2005&DFMonth=01&DFDay=01&DTYear=2015&DTM onth=02&DTDay=03



Approximately 100 000$




Marc Werners - Former President of the GOABC's side business website- cached version


Ill draw your attention to what it said in his bio;


He has risen in the political arena as a trusted adviser to key cabinet ministers in the B.C. Government and was asked to sit on the prestigious Minister’s Council on Tourism for the Honorable Shirley Bond. During his tenure as president, Mark grew the GOABC to what is considered by many in government to be the top lobby association.




http://webcache.googleusercontent.co.../about-us/




After this was posted this on social media , his webpage has been altered to remove his bio.


Why dont you want the Resident Hunter to know you are a lobbyist, and worked directly with the Liberal Goverment at their request?





Michael Schneider - Former VP of the GOABC , was an Adviser-committee member for MLA Prince George- Mike Morris- who also has voiced his support to this decision and himself a past president of BC Trapper's Association.



I have also found that Mark Werner, Michael Schneider and Scott Ellis all were registered lobbyists for the GOABC.


Now Werner is passing himself off as a "trusted advisor"- in his own words


Lobbyist to Trusted Advisor? Am I the only one that sees an issue here?




Why did the Liberals pay $50 000 to the GOABC?


What was that used for?

Was it to Lobby against the Resident hunters?


https://eservice.pssg.gov.bc.ca/LRA/...ationId=435391


Lobbyists Activity Registration - Organization
Registration ID: 435391
Submitted by lobbyist on: October 20, 2014 10:10 AM
Accepted by Registrar on: October 20, 2014 10:33 AM
Designated Filer Contact Information
Surname: Ellis
First Name: Scott
Middle Name:
Address: Suite 103
19140-28th Ave
Surrey, BC V3S 6M3
Canada
E-mail Address: ellis@goabc.org
Phone Number: 604 541-6332
Fax Number: 604 541-6339
Organization Information


Name of organization: Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia
Organization business or activity summary: The GOABC promotes guide outfitting to government and within our communities. We help market the Canadian northwest as the premier hunting destination and endorse the responsible, sustainable and ethical use of the wildlife resource. There are many issues, laws, policies and regulations affecting the guide outfitting industry. We seek to ensure our members are recognized in the development and implementation of government decisions. We encourage our members to honour a Code of Conduct and follow best practices to ensure the highest quality wilderness experiences for hunting clients.
Address: Suite 103
19140-28th Ave
Surrey, BC V3S 6M3
Canada
E-mail Address: admin@goabc.org
Phone Number: 604 541-6332
Fax Number: 604 541-6339
Organization Lobbying Activity


Registration start date: October 20, 2014
Registration end date: April 18, 2015
Organization's Relevant Interfaces


Government or Government Agency Funding


Name of Government or Government Agency Amount of Funding
Ministry of Jobs, Tourism and Skills Training $50,000



Page 158
http://docs.openinfo.gov.bc.ca/D5285...2012-00160.PDF


MINISTRY OF FORESTS, LANDS AND NATURAL RESOURCE OPERATIONS INFORMATION NOTE Date: May 25, 2012 CLIFF/tracking #: 188559
PREPARED FOR: Tom Ethier, Assistant Deputy Minister, Resource Stewardship Division ISSUE: In preparation for the meeting on May 31st, 2012 5:30 pm 6:00 pm with Minister Pat Bell, Mark Werner, Board President and Scott Ellis, Executive Director, Guide Outfitter Association of BC (GOABC).
BACKGROUND: GOABC is meeting with Minister Pat Bell and ADM Tom Ethier to discuss:


1. Adventure Tourism Policy concerns


2. Requests for Wildlife Act amendments to improve industry competiveness. In November 2011, Wildlife Act amendments were introduced to provide business certainty to the guiding industry and to provide additional recreational opportunities to youth and families. As of April 1st, 2012, there was an increase in the deadline for submission of a guide report from 10 days after the conclusion of a hunt to 30 days after the conclusion of a hunt. Extending the deadline for submission of a guide declaration made it easier for guide outfitters to comply with reporting requirements, particularly for guides in isolated areas. As of July 1st, 2012, the ministry is increasing the length of the guiding territory certificate from a maximum of 10 years to a maximum of 25 years.
The certificate can be reissued after 3/5 of the term of the certificate has elapsed, for a period not to exceed 25 years.


GOABC received $50,000 for marketing support from the Ministry of Jobs, Tourism and Innovation for 2011/12, and a further $30,000 for 2012/13.


Support from JTI is applied to GOABC’s AGM, translation services for their website and a consumer expo.



$80 000 dollars to the GOABC from the Liberals?



What about the Foreign Workers that are employed here, taking jobs away from BC residents?


Foreign ownership and foreign guides do nothing for BC economy


http://www.extremehuntress.com/erika-bergmark/


"Last year I was in Canada. I sended out email to random outfitters and offered myself working against food and living. An outfitter in British Columbia offered me work and I booked a one-way ticket flight"


This isnt an exception- this happens often in this industry.
How does this type of arrangement help the BC economy, as various lobbyists suggest?




This is an OIC- Order in Council




Stamped March 22 2013 and signed by Minister Thomson


PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA


ORDER OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN COUNCIL


Order in Council No. 183 , Approved and Ordered


Administrwor


On the recommendation of the undersigned, thttt=3: by and with the advice and consent of the
Executive Council, orders that the Wildlife Act General Regulation, B.C. Reg. 3,10182, is amended
(a) by adding the following section before Division 1:


Definition


1.001 in this regulation, "Act" means the Wildlife Act.,


(b) in sections 101 and 11.01 by striking out "Wildlife Act" and substituting "Act",


(c) in section 18.02 (2) by striking out "section 74 (1) (b) (ii) of the Wildlife Act" and substituting "section 84 (1)


(b) (ii) of the Act", and


(d) by adding the following section:


Exception — exceeding quota assigned to guide outfitter licence


16.011 Despite section 16.01 (i), and without limiting section 60 (2) of the Act, a guide outfitter does not commit an offence if the guide outfitter has a quota assigned as a condition of his or her guide outfitter licence and allows his or her clients to kill game to the extent that the number killed exceeds the quota assigned to the guide outfitter.



I think this one speaks for itself


I do have all the documents saved and links as well, if anyone wants to call doubt into these.


This is all public information if you know where to look- and factual.
 
Can you guys post the email addresses for the pertinent MLA's and ministers?

I am out of Province but am prepared to write a letter that explains why BC won't be seeing a nickel of my money (I travel there often to see family), and why I won't support BC business as long as they are giving away resident opportunity to foreign interests. It might kill my wife to lose access to the Interior wines, but she's a hunter and will support you too.

We need to stick together on these deals - and sick of seeing this crap in Alberta too.
 
You can look up your MLA by name or by riding here- https://www.leg.bc.ca/mla/3-1-1.htm

I thought this was going away they said they'd sit down with the BCWF and renegotiate the allocation policy a couple weeks ago but now the premier and minister are saying everything is fine the way it is. Its more important now to drill them again and please ask a few questions about their funding arrangement with GOABC read the stuff in green above carefully. Unreal.

And if at all possible hit the rally on March 2!! Spread the word email everyone you know
 
It appears the bazdards are now soliciting funding claiming to fight anti hunting in BC when they are soliciting funds for more full page news adds to fight RESIDENT BC HUNTERS who as far away from anti hunting as you can get! We support non resident hunting as is and as it has been for decades. We do not support this stolen allocation policy giving unheard of increases to benefit a few wealthy business some of which are foreign owned.


The Non-Resident Hunting Preservation Fund

Helping to Ensure Non-Residents Have Hunting Opportunities the (NRHPF) has been established by the Guide Outfitters Association of British Columbia (GOABC) to provide the funding necessary to help ensure that non-residents will continue to have the opportunity to hunt in British Columbia, NWT, Yukon and Nunavut. Hunting in general and hunting by non-residents in particular is coming under increasing pressure in BC from anti-hunters and land use conflicts. The anti-hunting movement which has been very active in many areas of the US has become more effective in the Canadian northwest. The activists are well-funded and are gaining influence with both politicians and the public – their long-term objective is to stop hunting. As a result, the Non-Resident Hunting Preservation Fund (NRHPF) has been established to assist GOABC in demonstrating the benefits of hunting truce conservation. GOABC is the only organization in BC working to ensure the non-resident hunting opportunities continue. Every GOABC member collects $150.00 ($250.00 for our region starting in 2014) from each non-resident client in BC. The Yukon and Northwest Territories also administer and similar NRHPF programs. The fee is collected by the guide outfitter and forwarded to GOABC. If you have and questions or concerns about the NRHPF fee please contact GOABC at Tel: 604 541-6332 or email: info@goabc.org
 
Oh this happens all the time here in BC. Roosevelt Elk, Grizzly and Bison are three species which have ZERO general open season, but guides get their annual quota. Moose hunting opportunities are severely curtailed throughout the vast majority of the province. In some areas the draw odds are 30:1 or worse...but of course the guides get their quotas.

As far as I'm concerned, any animal on LEH to the residents of BC, should not be on a quota to the GOABC. Let them put in for a draw. I've put in for years for a Rosie draw @ 96:1 odds and probably will never get it, but a non-resident with deep pockets can come here and shoot one?. BS.
 
i think this is becoming an all around the country thing. we have the same here for some GOs that get the same quotas for sheep or caribou than the residents. should be 10% at max ....
 
Oh this happens all the time here in BC. Roosevelt Elk, Grizzly and Bison are three species which have ZERO general open season, but guides get their annual quota. Moose hunting opportunities are severely curtailed throughout the vast majority of the province. In some areas the draw odds are 30:1 or worse...but of course the guides get their quotas.

This is exactly what Teddy Roosevelt was against when he set the U.S up with a system for the public good for hunting. He didn't want to see the U.S become like Europe where only Aristocracy and the wealthy could hunt.

www.trcp.org/...field.../north-american-model-of-wildlife-conservation
 
I say all the resident hunters AND us indians , should gather for roadblock protests throughout the province.
Hwy blockades in each interior community for as long as it takes for this Govt to get in line.
I know one thing is for sure, I'll never give this government another dime for a licence or tag.
 
It would be very much apprieciated if our brothers and sisters from across the Country would wite a brief letter to the Premier of BC saying that although you are not a BC Resident you are concerned that her Government seems to care more about accomodating foriegn hunters than BC families.

NOTE TOO that the GOABC is lobbying HARD to have our ability to host our Canadian friends and family extinguished forcing YOU to hire a guide at huge dollars. Given the Government's track record of erroding our share of the annual allowable harvest it would'nt surprise me if they grant their cash benefactors their wish!

Thanks for your consideration and even more gratitude for actually sending her an email!!
 
It would be very much apprieciated if our brothers and sisters from across the Country would wite a brief letter to the Premier of BC saying that although you are not a BC Resident you are concerned that her Government seems to care more about accomodating foriegn hunters than BC families.

NOTE TOO that the GOABC is lobbying HARD to have our ability to host our Canadian friends and family extinguished forcing YOU to hire a guide at huge dollars. Given the Government's track record of erroding our share of the annual allowable harvest it would'nt surprise me if they grant their cash benefactors their wish!

Thanks for your consideration and even more gratitude for actually sending her an email!!

As a BC resident I would sure appreciate anyone doing that as well.
 
Allocation Rally tomorrow at 11 at the BC Legislature in Victoria

You have time to get in your truck right now from anywhere in BC and make it. There's cheap hotels in Hope, hell there's cheap hotels just outside of Victoria this time of year! If your in the city just hop a boat tomorrow morning dead easy.

This rally is permitted, professional and peaceful there will be guest speakers including leaders of the opposition parties who are on our side. There will be a tent set up at the stairs to the Leg and porta poties. This is the most important day ever for the future of hunting in BC. If we don't get a big turn out we'll be steam rolled on this and will never get our stolen allocation back its that simple, please go to this rally!
 
Here's to hoping for big numbers there!!

Hopefully some bus-loads of students are there too, to see history.
 
A couple buddies and myself will be at the rally.
I still say that if this doesn't get turned around, every hunter in BC should take a year off from buying hunting licenses, tags and leh draws.
See what their bottom line looks like come spring.:rey2
 
Who made it down to the rally today?
What did you think? I was there and am still left wondering if they will actually do anything or was it just more political grandstanding by the opposition parties.
Anybody see any news coverage of it?
 
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