6-24x50 mil/mil FFP recommendations

[alberta tactical rifle]

Rick, you must be shooting some very small targets if you can't see them behind the reticle of this scope. Walnuts at a grand?

IF you shoot long range in the wind the FFP has merit. I never have to stop to think about what magnification my scope is at, multiply by 2X, 4X, and convert mil dots to MOA. A 2 MOA wind hold is a 2MOA wind hold at whatever magnification I choose to use. That is why I love the FFP.



OP, masonicshooter will sell you his for $300. If you don't buy it I will.

What I have found with every FFP scope I have had is that my 5" and smaller gongs and clay birds are completely covered by the reticle at 1000 yards and beyond, and by a fair bit This makes shooting small targets which are meant to be a challenge nearly impossible.

Also and this is just a personal thing on FFP scopes but I really find the reticle being small and hard to see at low magnification and it gets bigger as the magnification increases annoying.

I agree with you in regards to the advantage that regardless of power everything is constant in an FFP, but like everything there are pros and cons and to me the FFP scopes regardless of maker have too many cons for me.
The important part here is educate new shooters as to the pros and cons so they can then make informed decisions.

As for the Vortex, I can not speak for the lower end line as I have no experience with them, the PST and Razor HD I have had and found the PST to be a pretty decent scope for the $$, the Razor HD is awesome but unfortunately only FFP.

 

[Dedw8]

where did you get the Viper from? I'm looking as well and trying to determine who has them in stock. FFP isn't so important for my purposes but I'd certainly take it if I could.

Got it from grouseriver, good price and in stock, Laura was great to deal with.

 

[Dedw8]

Rick your comments are well recieved. I had actually read up on it for quite awhile before deciding ffp. I have dual purpose for the scope as i do hunt (although the rifle isnt very mobile) and want to try it out - constant measures seems like it mighht work for me better. It seems campa are split between ffp and sfp as well as moa/mil - seems folks in one camp or the other are pretty rigid in their beliefs and what theyve gotten used to. I'll just have to try and see what works for me. I exoect i'll learn quite a bit this coming year!

 

[alberta tactical rifle]

Rick your comments are well recieved. I had actually read up on it for quite awhile before deciding ffp. I have dual purpose for the scope as i do hunt (although the rifle isnt very mobile) and want to try it out - constant measures seems like it mighht work for me better. It seems campa are split between ffp and sfp as well as moa/mil - seems folks in one camp or the other are pretty rigid in their beliefs and what theyve gotten used to. I'll just have to try and see what works for me. I exoect i'll learn quite a bit this coming year!

As long as you do your homework, and it seems you have, it is all good

 

[zimbu]

What I have found with every FFP scope I have had is that my 5" and smaller gongs and clay birds are completely covered by the reticle at 1000 yards and beyond, and by a fair bit This makes shooting small targets which are meant to be a challenge nearly impossible.

Also and this is just a personal thing on FFP scopes but I really find the reticle being small and hard to see at low magnification and it gets bigger as the magnification increases annoying.

I agree with you in regards to the advantage that regardless of power everything is constant in an FFP, but like everything there are pros and cons and to me the FFP scopes regardless of maker have too many cons for me.
The important part here is educate new shooters as to the pros and cons so they can then make informed decisions.

As for the Vortex, I can not speak for the lower end line as I have no experience with them, the PST and Razor HD I have had and found the PST to be a pretty decent scope for the $$, the Razor HD is awesome but unfortunately only FFP.

Agreed. The more knowledge we can trade the better off we are for it.

As you say the PST is great bang for the buck. FWIW the crosshair in the EBR-1 FFP reticle is only .18 MOA thick which works out to 1.872" at 1000yd, but I certainly understand that some people just don't care for FFP.

 

[hifly78]

I have had my Vortex Viper PST FFP 6-24x50 mil/mil for 5 months now. Had it on order for a year. Love it.
I have never use the real high end scopes so can't compare but the glass no problem out past 800 yards with my 223. Able to see the hits on steel.

I have a Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x50 with MOA turrets and Mil dots in SFP and love the FFP with the matched reticule. Takes all the extra math out of wind holds at lone ranges.

As for the adjustments. The turrets absolutely match the reticule and are repeatable. I have been using this on my savage 12 223 and savage Mark II BTVS 22LR with pic rail and leupold QRW rings for quick swaps. I am able to swap it off my 223, come up 2.4mil and 2.6 mil left to make my 100 yard zero on my 22LR then dial an additional 9.3 mil up and swack steel at 280 yards with the 22LR. Multiple hits on 8" squares and also some on the 4" wide by 7" high steel. What I'm trying to say even swapping off guns. Doing large adjustments and returning to zero is flawless.

Would I buy this again. Absolutely.