6.5 CM Hunting Bullet

[iron cat]

No

Hijack warranted. Bringing you to creek, the drinking part is up to you. And the hijack more for all other readers so they choose more wisely.

This is important.

Ps; the thread title is 6.5cm ‘hunting bullet’.

There’s a difference in dead is dead if within sight and walk right up to it or 100 yards over the ridge and down it the thick stuff. Your freezer or god’s freezer, roll your dice.

I have have not had to chase down anything shot with a mono or cup and core except for one high shot white tail, and that was not the bullet's fault, the shooter shot high is all. well over 50 years of killing stuff has taught me to make sure the bullet goes where it is supposed to and everything else is secondary.
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[blakeyboy]

I have have not had to chase down anything shot with a mono or cup and core except for one high shot white tail, and that was not the bullet's fault, the shooter shot high is all. well over 50 years of killing stuff has taught me to make sue the bullet goes where it is supposed to and everything else is secondary.
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This is also true.

I can only offer the very noticeable difference in performance in this regard when I was finally able to get a certain rifle and cartridge that only offered this type of bullet and then started killing sh1t. Been around long enough to have been programmed to the tough delayed controlled expansion deep penetrating perfect mushroom stuff and shot a lot of stuff with accubonds and fusions from various and usually higher hp or velocity cartridges and no big thing to usually trail 60-100 yards. Then I start killing stuff with a pipsqueak cartridge but the much different bullet construction and it was a 180 degree flip and almost everything drt to 15 yards and have yet to see something make it more than 50. I had idea this would be result but I put it to test on game and 8 years later it has simply confirmed every year.

Will the tough stuff work, yup, always did for me. But it’s a very noticeable difference and confirms the headstamp does not matter, the grains of powder burned does not matter. The bullet matters most, next to placement of course and you can obviously place it, it’s what does the work. More work in right swim distance is what I prefer and only time we need to break out the ole trailing and tracking skills is when helping someone else who isn’t using the real good stuff.

I still even recommend to newbies to make sure they try fusion on any new gun as much rather them have accuracy and fusion is accurate than not have accuracy but even still I have one backup rifle set up on that stuff and even gimmie deer at 75 yards pounded in lungs still makes it nearly that same distance. Then we kill 5 more critters with eldm and even less hp and all drt. Same story every year.

Not arguing dead is dead. Just that there is a difference and choose wisely. That’s all. Full perspective in this thread now achieved haha.

And there is a body of evidence across our hunting realms that support this, cannot be denied. It’s overwhelming. And like once finding god there is no going back lol. You cannot unsee what you have now seen. Not a chance if given a choice I’m not choosing on bullet over all other considerations. Regardless cartridge, regardless rifle. Literally going back to back multiple years of one to multiple years of another...you can’t unsee that.

It’s almost laughable when one finds a bullet has shed half its weight and multiple pieces or jacket caught offside and people call it bullet failure. Like serious comedy. I’m disappointed if I find high weight retention and pretty mushrooms lol. Yet those same people walked right up to it after the shot because it did the best work you can do, failing to grasp the fact they walked right up to it.

 

[iron cat]

As stated earlier, I don't care if it is cup and core or mono, it has to be accurate first and foremost at my hunting distances , regardless of caliber, cartridge, or anything else .
I have used both cup and cores and monos out of four different rifles , both types worked well.
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[boxhitch]

It’s almost laughable when one finds a bullet has shed half its weight and multiple pieces or jacket caught offside and people call it bullet failure. Like serious comedy. I’m disappointed if I find high weight retention and pretty mushrooms lol. Yet those same people walked right up to it after the shot because it did the best work you can do, failing to grasp the fact they walked right up to it

depends where that splatter winds up as to whether it leaves a bad taste in the mouth or not
bullets that are expected to splatter are not failing if that is what they do,

 

[pathfinder76]

Are people still having a hard time killing things with Barnes bullets? Wowzers.

 

[Meroh]

Sure, let's liven it up a bit...

I doubt that the 6.5 Creed has enough powder capacity to make a PPU SP RN fly, but this would be my choice for deer, moose and elk. in my 6.5 x 55. Very potent load. In the creed, like most rifles, Sierra perform well, and for me out perform hornaday in everything I have tried them in. 140 gr SP Game Kings.

 

[Denver Steve]

Sure, let's liven it up a bit...

I doubt that the 6.5 Creed has enough powder capacity to make a PPU SP RN fly, but this would be my choice for deer, moose and elk. in my 6.5 x 55. Very potent load. In the creed, like most rifles, Sierra perform well, and for me out perform hornaday in everything I have tried them in. 140 gr SP Game Kings.

The creedmoor has enough powder capacity to get good velocity with a bunch of different 160 grain bullets. I shoot 2 different woodleighs, and the Hornady round nose interlock in two different rifles.

I have no problem getting very good velocity in 18" and 22" barrels. Just have to use the right powders if you want the speed. Each rifle is different, but if you want speed with heavy bullets, you gotta burn some slower powders. RL-23, RL-26, H4831, Superformance, 6.5 Staball. Just an example of a few powders that work good in my rifles with heavy bullets.

 

[iron cat]

Sure, let's liven it up a bit...

I doubt that the 6.5 Creed has enough powder capacity to make a PPU SP RN fly, but this would be my choice for deer, moose and elk. in my 6.5 x 55. Very potent load. In the creed, like most rifles, Sierra perform well, and for me out perform hornaday in everything I have tried them in. 140 gr SP Game Kings.

a 156 grain / 160 grain bullet is pretty much standard in the 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer carbine, which is a smaller case than the Creedmoor, and the the MS has killed tons of animals over the years. I doubt very much that is is magically better able to handle the big bullets better than a Creednoor as long as the barrel twist is correct.
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