6.5 Creedmoor?

[steve-o1979]

The 6.5 creed sure is one people will argue about lol. I avoided buying one for years… I have all the old boring chamberings lol. Odds are if your grandfather had one, I do as well… anyway I had a deal pop up from a friend that I just couldn’t turn down. Brand new xbolt maple 6.5 creedmoor, never had a scope mounted on it, and never had a round in the chamber, for less than half price. I shot it for the first time today, and although I have no idea how it will be on deer, I have to say it’s nice to shoot.

 

[todbartell]

6.5 Creedmoor won't work for deer, only moose , and only if a child shoots it

 

[Meroh]

A guy shoots a deer with a .223 and no one bats an eye.
A guy shoots a moose with a .25-06 and no one bats an eye.
A guy goes deer hunting with a 6.5 cm and the naysayers come screaming out of the woodwork.
Unbelieveable.

Yea, you can drop them with a ball-peen hammer to, so what?

You missed the point. So did Hornaday with the Creed. It was redundant from the day it was conceived; cleaver marketing, with a lot of hype deceived the shooting public into thinking it was the best thing since two ply toilet paper. Of course it will work, that was not the point.

New cartridge development needs to offer something better than what is already available. Cartridge/action length are touted as it's greatist attribute; something that the .260 already had. The 260 still shows a ballistic advantage over the Creed with light bullets; as does the 6.5 x 55 with heavy bullets. 6.5 creed in my opinion is an exercise in mediocrity; perfectly suited for the lemmings of the shooting world.

 

[brybenn]

What good marketing does is ensure that the item is known and picked up by multiple brands and supported in due time. Giving access to rifles brass ammo and bullets all at once. It took quite awhile for the industry to get behind the 6.5cm but hornady kept shouting about it until it made the jump yo the hunting world. There's nothing inherently wrong with the 6.5 and the creed more case is enough for the general public. It's that general public that pays the bills

Us rifle guys will rebarrel an action we already own and not buy factory ammo and we cut complain about everything. Hotnady don't give a puck about us unless we're a sponsored shooter
But the average hunter or new target shooter that wants one rifle or just a new rifle to do everything with from paper and steel deer will do just fine with the 6.5. That's the marketing that companies follow. So now e eryone has a 6.5 trying to get in on the flavor of the times. Now that the 6.5cm is rooted companies can brach out with ite.s intended for the smaller markets without fear of loosing to much coin
Same thing is going on with straight walled cartridges minus the target shooting aspect. In that case they can't just neck down they need a new cartridge case and us rifle guys complain there's to many new useless cartridges popping up

The reason I don't own a 6.5 is I'm a fan of the 25. If I need more than what a 25 can do I'm going vlo reach for something bigger than a 6.5. I don't shoot long range anymore since I moved into town
Also the difference between a short action and a long action has never bothered me so the main draw of the cm is lost on me

 

[savagelh]

I'm finally on the 6.5 wagon. Had a Tikka 6.5 grendel barrel that I decided was just too anemic for anything I would do so decided to get it chambered in 6.5 creed. I haven't shot it yet but I'm looking forward to it. I was going to go 260 ai but wanted to use sa aics mags and didn't want to have to source dies so I stuck with the creed.

 

[AlbertaJohn]

Yea, you can drop them with a ball-peen hammer to, so what?

You missed the point. So did Hornaday with the Creed. It was redundant from the day it was conceived; cleaver marketing, with a lot of hype deceived the shooting public into thinking it was the best thing since two ply toilet paper. Of course it will work, that was not the point.

New cartridge development needs to offer something better than what is already available. Cartridge/action length are touted as it's greatist attribute; something that the .260 already had. The 260 still shows a ballistic advantage over the Creed with light bullets; as does the 6.5 x 55 with heavy bullets. 6.5 creed in my opinion is an exercise in mediocrity; perfectly suited for the lemmings of the shooting world.

Dude you have a bad case of CDS

Creedmoor Derangement Syndrome.

 

[iron cat]

Yea, you can drop them with a ball-peen hammer to, so what?

You missed the point. So did Hornaday with the Creed. It was redundant from the day it was conceived; cleaver marketing, with a lot of hype deceived the shooting public into thinking it was the best thing since two ply toilet paper. Of course it will work, that was not the point.

New cartridge development needs to offer something better than what is already available. Cartridge/action length are touted as it's greatist attribute; something that the .260 already had. The 260 still shows a ballistic advantage over the Creed with light bullets; as does the 6.5 x 55 with heavy bullets. 6.5 creed in my opinion is an exercise in mediocrity; perfectly suited for the lemmings of the shooting world.

You seem to have missed the point about the 6.5 Creedmoor development having nothing to do with the hunting world but everything to do with the National Match World.
Have you ever even heard of a guy named Dennis Demille?
Maybe google his name then come back here and prove that it was all marketing hype to sell to unaware hunters and shooters who were duped into buying a useless cartridge.
Cat

 

[Hunter7]

Years ago 6.5 rifles were used to cull elephants. Not saying it’s the best round for the job, just saying. As far as the Creedmore not being able to kill a black bear, they are taken with smaller rounds, I chalk it up to poor bullet choice and or shot placement. I have seen a black bear take a hit at close range from a .458 Win Mag, 510 grn. soft point drop to the ground like hit with a sledgehammer and get up to disappear into the bush not to be recovered or seen again. In most cases, where you hit them is more important than what they are hit with. As far as the moose dropping in its tracks from a 6.5 bullet in the back of the scull a .22 magnum would have accomplished the same feat.

 

[Meroh]

You seem to have missed the point about the 6.5 Creedmoor development having nothing to do with the hunting world but everything to do with the National Match World.
Have you ever even heard of a guy named Dennis Demille?
Maybe google his name then come back here and prove that it was all marketing hype to sell to unaware hunters and shooters who were duped into buying a useless cartridge.
Cat

Sure, that is also the point of the .260 remington. A target round.

Can't see the forest for the Creed. LOL

 

[iron cat]

Sure, that is also the point of the .260 remington. A target round.

Can't see the forest for the Creed. LOL

The creedmoor was designed because Mr. Demille couldn't get the 260 Remington or the 6XC to do what he wanted them to do .
The 260 was designed around Silhouette not National Course.
I have owned both BTW, and both are great for what they were designed to do.
However neither will replace my 6.5 Mannlicher for several reasons, the biggest being the rifle it is chambered in.
In the end however it matters not except to those that like it and use it. Those that don't needn't worry about it.
Cat