Its always funny to see someone who is adding nothing with their post talk about how others are upping their post counts...Just as I figured, a couple of “me too” posters with no experience with the cartridge in question, but at least it’s good for upping the post count totals for you, and entertainment for me.
6.5 Creedmoor?
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Wasn't picking on you. I've no issue with the 6.5 either, I own one, along with many other CF calibers. I take issue with those who dismiss it strictly because of its popularity. Very few of us think there can only be one caliber, let alone one gun. I guess it's similar to the 45 vs 9 argument, to which I've always thought you need both.
Back in the day I did a fair amount of guiding. Only ever had one hunter that was a competent rifleman. He was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor and made a good shot on a goat at distance in challenging conditions.
The rest of these so called hunters, whether they were old duffers toting garbage rods with fogged glass in tip off rings or newbies with shiny rifles and good glass that had been bore sighted at Cabelas were a total ####show. Ass shots, gut shots, legs blown off, you name it. I almost always had to bat cleanup in the end. Often at extreme range after they had exhausted their ammo supply.
As for seeking accolades and ass kissing, thanks but I got my fill of that long ago from the dude hunters trying to buy the rifle that cleaned up their mess.
Fast forward to now and CWD has almost wiped out the deer and the mighty hunters have taken up golf. A blessing in disguise really.
I could post a virtual slideshow of head shot critters, taken with various rifles and calibers, but that would be off topic and doubtless send some of the resident bull####ters over the edge.
All is not lost for some here though. Maybe one day someone will start a “one time at band camp”thread and they will be able to post a pic of their flute and really contribute.
The rest of these so called hunters, whether they were old duffers toting garbage rods with fogged glass in tip off rings or newbies with shiny rifles and good glass that had been bore sighted at Cabelas were a total ####show. Ass shots, gut shots, legs blown off, you name it. I almost always had to bat cleanup in the end. Often at extreme range after they had exhausted their ammo supply.
As for seeking accolades and ass kissing, thanks but I got my fill of that long ago from the dude hunters trying to buy the rifle that cleaned up their mess.
Fast forward to now and CWD has almost wiped out the deer and the mighty hunters have taken up golf. A blessing in disguise really.
I could post a virtual slideshow of head shot critters, taken with various rifles and calibers, but that would be off topic and doubtless send some of the resident bull####ters over the edge.
All is not lost for some here though. Maybe one day someone will start a “one time at band camp”thread and they will be able to post a pic of their flute and really contribute.
I knew some guys- avid shooters & hunters- using it with great results. So decided to try it for myself. It’s accurate, slips the wind extremely well for a 6.5mm projectile, and has had great terminal results. Usually exiting IME. It’s become my go to, unless I’m looking for a mono, then it’s the 127LRX.
Easy to load for: Yes
Good ammunition available too...in some cases, there is no need for the rifle user to handload, unless they want to.
Good variety in selection of rifles. Even for lefties!
I have two (a bolt action and a very nice single shot), and my wife has one, because they are fun to shoot, have mild recoil, and kill a variety of game where retained velocity and energy are sufficient for effective performance on game. (good expansion and weight retention for proper penetration) My first 6.5 CM was one of the first Ruger Hawkeyes to come into Canada after the cartridge and rifles were introduced. And this based on the desire to compare it to the 6.5x55, which I had extensive experience shooting and reloading for, plus hunting experience with. One of my personal favourites because it is so easy to load for, shoot, and has great on-game performance.
We have taken moose, caribou, red stag, fallow buck and arapawa rams with the 6.5 CM, from 15 yards to 296 yards; all one shot kills with good bullet placement. The furthest any animal travelled after being hits was about 15 yards; the fallow buck that jumped at the shot and fell down the steep slope to where it died.
I *own, or **have also owned, the *6.5x55, **260 Rem, **6.5x284 and *6.5 PRC. They all shoot/shot well, and I have also taken game with the 6.5x55. (Still looking to take game with the 6.5 PRC and my newest-to-me 6.5 Swede).
The Swede has accounted for deer, moose, elk, caribou and stones sheep, from 85 to 370 yards. The only shot on game I wouldn't repeat was the 370 yard shot on the cow elk, as retained energy of the 140 gr X bullet while at approx 1,500 ft. lbs may be considered sufficient, did not provide the quick kill I was hoping for on the quartering to shot on a wary animal, that did make it into one lung. It took follow up shots to finish the job. But this really was my error and inexperience in hunting elk at the time (almost 30 years, and over 20 elk ago).
The 143 gr ELD-X completely disintegrated on a frontal shot on bull moose at 15 yards. It did penetrate the opening in the front of the chest and made a mess of the lungs and heart, but never made it past the diaphragm. The moose turned and stumbled approx. 10 yards before quickly expiring. Not great performance, but given the velocity due to the short range, not entirely unexpected. (The moose was a target of opportunity that presented itself while deer hunting.)
The only bullet I wasn't happy with the on-game performance was the Berger 140 gr HPBT VLD on a caribou at 150 yards. The caribou ran almost 450 yards after the shot. The bullet had split in two after entering the ribcage on a slightly quartering away shot, with the smaller portion passing through the offside ribs, and the larger portion turning and travelling sideways through the abdomen, ending up inside the hide near the offside rear quarter. There was no chance for a follow up shot as the animal raced through the alpine fir in its death run. It had expired by the time I followed the tracks to it final resting place.
Has there been any difference in the on-game performance between the Swede and the CM, otherwise? Not really that one would actually be able to say with any real certainty...the remaining game taken were all quick, clean kills, with proper bullet placement, and the only follow up shot was on a moose at 100 yards with the Swede and a 140 gr partition, that while the animal was essentially dead on its feet, did not fall over immediately, and I put in the additional insurance shot to finish it quickly... the young bull moose fell within 3 yards of where it took the first shot.
Any variance would have to be contributed to the bullets...and bullet placement...140 gr Nosler Partitions and 130 and 140 gr Accubonds, vs, 140 gr Barnes X, and the new Federal 130 gr Terminal Ascent...and this would come down to shot distance and whether the bullet fully penetrated the animal, or not.
To date, the only bullet I haven't recovered is the new Terminal Ascent bullet, as they have all been pass throughs, at distances ranging from 40 to 296 yards.
Moving forward, I am most likely to stay with the 130 gr bullets (AccuBond and Terminal Ascent) in the CM and the 140 gr bullets (AccuBond) in the Swede (due to its higher case capacity). But this just me and my preference.
The AccuBond has been my favourite bullet since it first came out over 20 years ago! Easy to develop good loads for, accurate and great on-game performance. I have found approx. 2X expansion on recovered bullets and typically 90-95% weight retention.
While I do now have some Terminal Ascent bullets for handloading in the 6.5 and 270 cal, I have not yet had time to do any handloading with them. The factory ammo is proving to be MOA or better in most of my rifles (the 200 gr in the 300 WSM being the only one more than MOA but less then 1.4 MOA - and still plenty accurate for hunting), and the on-game performance from the 6.5 CM has been stellar as mentioned above. I am impressed with it so far!
The OP did not state what rifle or cartridge he finally purchased... hope he enjoys it and has many great adventures with it!
Good ammunition available too...in some cases, there is no need for the rifle user to handload, unless they want to.
Good variety in selection of rifles. Even for lefties!
I have two (a bolt action and a very nice single shot), and my wife has one, because they are fun to shoot, have mild recoil, and kill a variety of game where retained velocity and energy are sufficient for effective performance on game. (good expansion and weight retention for proper penetration) My first 6.5 CM was one of the first Ruger Hawkeyes to come into Canada after the cartridge and rifles were introduced. And this based on the desire to compare it to the 6.5x55, which I had extensive experience shooting and reloading for, plus hunting experience with. One of my personal favourites because it is so easy to load for, shoot, and has great on-game performance.
We have taken moose, caribou, red stag, fallow buck and arapawa rams with the 6.5 CM, from 15 yards to 296 yards; all one shot kills with good bullet placement. The furthest any animal travelled after being hits was about 15 yards; the fallow buck that jumped at the shot and fell down the steep slope to where it died.
I *own, or **have also owned, the *6.5x55, **260 Rem, **6.5x284 and *6.5 PRC. They all shoot/shot well, and I have also taken game with the 6.5x55. (Still looking to take game with the 6.5 PRC and my newest-to-me 6.5 Swede).
The Swede has accounted for deer, moose, elk, caribou and stones sheep, from 85 to 370 yards. The only shot on game I wouldn't repeat was the 370 yard shot on the cow elk, as retained energy of the 140 gr X bullet while at approx 1,500 ft. lbs may be considered sufficient, did not provide the quick kill I was hoping for on the quartering to shot on a wary animal, that did make it into one lung. It took follow up shots to finish the job. But this really was my error and inexperience in hunting elk at the time (almost 30 years, and over 20 elk ago).
The 143 gr ELD-X completely disintegrated on a frontal shot on bull moose at 15 yards. It did penetrate the opening in the front of the chest and made a mess of the lungs and heart, but never made it past the diaphragm. The moose turned and stumbled approx. 10 yards before quickly expiring. Not great performance, but given the velocity due to the short range, not entirely unexpected. (The moose was a target of opportunity that presented itself while deer hunting.)
The only bullet I wasn't happy with the on-game performance was the Berger 140 gr HPBT VLD on a caribou at 150 yards. The caribou ran almost 450 yards after the shot. The bullet had split in two after entering the ribcage on a slightly quartering away shot, with the smaller portion passing through the offside ribs, and the larger portion turning and travelling sideways through the abdomen, ending up inside the hide near the offside rear quarter. There was no chance for a follow up shot as the animal raced through the alpine fir in its death run. It had expired by the time I followed the tracks to it final resting place.
Has there been any difference in the on-game performance between the Swede and the CM, otherwise? Not really that one would actually be able to say with any real certainty...the remaining game taken were all quick, clean kills, with proper bullet placement, and the only follow up shot was on a moose at 100 yards with the Swede and a 140 gr partition, that while the animal was essentially dead on its feet, did not fall over immediately, and I put in the additional insurance shot to finish it quickly... the young bull moose fell within 3 yards of where it took the first shot.
Any variance would have to be contributed to the bullets...and bullet placement...140 gr Nosler Partitions and 130 and 140 gr Accubonds, vs, 140 gr Barnes X, and the new Federal 130 gr Terminal Ascent...and this would come down to shot distance and whether the bullet fully penetrated the animal, or not.
To date, the only bullet I haven't recovered is the new Terminal Ascent bullet, as they have all been pass throughs, at distances ranging from 40 to 296 yards.
Moving forward, I am most likely to stay with the 130 gr bullets (AccuBond and Terminal Ascent) in the CM and the 140 gr bullets (AccuBond) in the Swede (due to its higher case capacity). But this just me and my preference.
The AccuBond has been my favourite bullet since it first came out over 20 years ago! Easy to develop good loads for, accurate and great on-game performance. I have found approx. 2X expansion on recovered bullets and typically 90-95% weight retention.
While I do now have some Terminal Ascent bullets for handloading in the 6.5 and 270 cal, I have not yet had time to do any handloading with them. The factory ammo is proving to be MOA or better in most of my rifles (the 200 gr in the 300 WSM being the only one more than MOA but less then 1.4 MOA - and still plenty accurate for hunting), and the on-game performance from the 6.5 CM has been stellar as mentioned above. I am impressed with it so far!
The OP did not state what rifle or cartridge he finally purchased... hope he enjoys it and has many great adventures with it!
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Back in the day I did a fair amount of guiding. Only ever had one hunter that was a competent rifleman. He was shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor and made a good shot on a goat at distance in challenging conditions.
The rest of these so called hunters, whether they were old duffers toting garbage rods with fogged glass in tip off rings or newbies with shiny rifles and good glass that had been bore sighted at Cabelas were a total ####show. Ass shots, gut shots, legs blown off, you name it. I almost always had to bat cleanup in the end. Often at extreme range after they had exhausted their ammo supply.
As for seeking accolades and ass kissing, thanks but I got my fill of that long ago from the dude hunters trying to buy the rifle that cleaned up their mess.
Fast forward to now and CWD has almost wiped out the deer and the mighty hunters have taken up golf. A blessing in disguise really.
I could post a virtual slideshow of head shot critters, taken with various rifles and calibers, but that would be off topic and doubtless send some of the resident bull####ters over the edge.
All is not lost for some here though. Maybe one day someone will start a “one time at band camp”thread and they will be able to post a pic of their flute and really contribute.
Lmao. You aren't bothered by not getting accolades, you just feel the need to tell us all how great you are compared to all your awful garbage clients now
uh-huh lol.
Stand on the mountain and proclaim your greatness to one and all. Who cares lol. Something on the internet bothered your feelers, probably a sign you need to gear down the ego, big rig.
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jeepcjaholic
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I didn’t read too far into your post so maybe you answered my question. What do you want to do with it? Paper, hunt, or both? Great for target and in my opinion okay for hunting. If it’s more for hunting then I would look seriously at the PRC. Myself, I shoot .308 so yes I’m that guy!!
No better than an equal lenght barrel 6.5 CM in my findings ,. I have the 6.5CM the 260Rem and the 6.5 x 55 Swede
My FAVOURITE of the 3 is the 6.5 CM . JMO RJ
By the Way I don’t like it Better because it kills any different because it doesn’t they all kill the same but I believe it is the best case design for fit and accuracy - case stretch . It is just very WELL designed. Lots of them being used in target shooting competition now a days - PRS & F Class .
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Thunderhog
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- East Kootneys
Indeed, almost ballistic twins between the Creedmoor and the 260.
The 260 is just nostalgic for me.
In saying this I love the 6.5 Creedmoor.
I’ve always been intrigued by the Swede, but never ended up buying one…
I like mine, bought a Savage Lightweight Storm a couple years ago now on sale, topped it with a set of Burris bases I found in the bargain aisle at Cabela's and a set of TPS rings I pulled off another rifle. The Athlon 2-12x42mm was also a hand-me-down from another rifle.
As an old fart, I don't bother hunting when it's near freezing and it's pissing rain but it is nice having (yet another) rifle that can be subbed in for crap weather. Also, my son likes it and it's worth keeping it around for that fact alone if it gets him into the field.
I've shot a few different loads out of it and they all group well, but this was the standout, a 156gr Sako bonded bullet. Black bears aren't hard to kill, but I've never had one not run at the shot. My last bear dropped in about 10 yards.
I've got a bunch of target loads to work through from my last 6.5 Creedmoor (which was a SIG Cross) so once that is done in the spring (hopefully) I can spend some time at the bench loading up some whitetail loads.
Old Cross (these are super neat but I learned I definitely prefer a rigid sporter-style stock):
As an old fart, I don't bother hunting when it's near freezing and it's pissing rain but it is nice having (yet another) rifle that can be subbed in for crap weather. Also, my son likes it and it's worth keeping it around for that fact alone if it gets him into the field.
I've shot a few different loads out of it and they all group well, but this was the standout, a 156gr Sako bonded bullet. Black bears aren't hard to kill, but I've never had one not run at the shot. My last bear dropped in about 10 yards.
I've got a bunch of target loads to work through from my last 6.5 Creedmoor (which was a SIG Cross) so once that is done in the spring (hopefully) I can spend some time at the bench loading up some whitetail loads.
Old Cross (these are super neat but I learned I definitely prefer a rigid sporter-style stock):
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- Blaster land, Okanagan BC
I don’t have one but I’ve watched a buddy shoot a wt buck with his 6.5C a few year back, offhand shot around 100-130m. Dropped on the spot, seems like a plenty capable cartridge. I mean look at the 6.5x55, it’s taken tons of larger game than deer and they’re pretty similar cartridges.
Lots of factory ammo available, I see plenty of loading components as well. Personally I’d probably buy a 6.5 Swede but I like the old school cartridges vs. the new hyped ones but it’s hard to say the 6.5C isn’t capable.
Lots of factory ammo available, I see plenty of loading components as well. Personally I’d probably buy a 6.5 Swede but I like the old school cartridges vs. the new hyped ones but it’s hard to say the 6.5C isn’t capable.
The pro's and con's remind me of those guys/gals hanging out on Friday nights at the strip mall in Richmond on Three Rd .
Known as the hoods up gang..standing around talking smack about the other guys car and choice of radiator cap and or the better choice of gear oil in the rear end make them go faster with more lubricity.
Shoot the calibre for the size of game or range to the paper target down range
It is really semantics on what the better choice is.
Known as the hoods up gang..standing around talking smack about the other guys car and choice of radiator cap and or the better choice of gear oil in the rear end make them go faster with more lubricity.
Shoot the calibre for the size of game or range to the paper target down range
It is really semantics on what the better choice is.
I have found that the 6.5 Creedmore is very accurate. I use a Sierra HPBT 143 grain ELD with 41.5 grains of 4350 giving 2700 fps. Both myself and my shooting buddy can hit the 600 meter gong ( 6" ) and the 900 meter one. He can hit the 1200 m but my eyes are not good enough even with a scope. He has taken multiple Elk over the years with thismix between 300 to 450m. I prefer 100 yard shots myself so I can see where they drop. LOL
-Are they easy to handload for accuracy? definitely
-What was your best weight bullet for accuracy? I believe it 147 grain ELD or ELDX im shooting
-Who has killed big game with them and how did the animal react? neck shot elk drop like a rock with this.
-What was your best weight bullet for accuracy? I believe it 147 grain ELD or ELDX im shooting
-Who has killed big game with them and how did the animal react? neck shot elk drop like a rock with this.
129 gr factory Hornady Interlock on a fat muley at 286 yards with a CVA Scout Compact 20 inch barrel. Bang, took 15 steps and folded. Deer are not hard to kill with proper shot placement and the right bullets for the task. The Creed punches above its weight, as does the 6.5x55 and 260. My buddy who shoots 7mm Rem mag was shocked that the round performed so well. I download it with H4895 for my 9 year old. Sweet round.
