6.5 Creedmor or 6.5 Lapua?
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Yes, it could be a case of lemmings all following each other over the cliff... One certainly would feel out of place shooting a 30 cal in that crowd. One competitor in the top 50 and that was three years ago!
Mystic Precision
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If Lapua is going to make some CM brass, they will likely announce around SHOT show. If the question is between SR and LR primer brass, it doesn't matter to me cause I am not running pressures that will bust either case so availability, ignition consistency, reliability in all weather is what I am concerned about.
Both have been made to work... so pick your poison and go have fun.
WRT to the Lapua vs Creedmoor case, both are available but the CM is going to supercede market presence quickly. I fully expect to see announcements from more major ammo brands offering CM ammo. Rifles are coming fast and furious... the CM is growing fast due to US manf support and availability.
Simple way to know how popular a chambering is... when Lee makes a collet neck die for it, it is popular.....
The Lapua, as wonderful a cartridge it is, is still a "foreign" design and the US never likes to get behind something they didn't "think" up. Took them well over a century to accept the 6.5 might actually be a damn fine calibre for accurate shooting.
As for chamber choices, depends on the matches. There have been some super long events that start at 500yds and go out to a mile or longer. Big boomers show up for that one.
There was a match video that I think was in California.. winds were howling... yeah, a bigger stick would come in handy there too.
Most PRS matches have the vast majority of shooting inside 800yds... now you balance ballistics, recoil, recovery and points.
I bet if the event was at a really windy location, more 6.5's would show up. On a shortish event with lots of transistions and not alot of wind, the 6mm's are likely to dominate.
But those that do these matches will have more info to add on that perspective.
The class I am really excited about is the "tactical" class which limits to 308/223 and their ballistics. I am all for moving shooting tech along but in competition, helping to control costs is a smart idea to keep the sport healthy..
And I am just guessing, there are a few more 308 mag fed bolt action rifles in the US vs 6.5 or 6mm. Pretty big audience to draw competitors from. I now hear there is going to be an AR class too. Yeah, just a few more of those kicking around with not much to do on a Weekend....
Very good for the sport and recreational shooting.... and the longevity of gun ownership.
Jerry
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With small rifle primer, and small flash hole. Cool.
Well I just ordered my barrel. 20 inch CFW.
Now for an action I'm thinking trued rem/stiller tac30.
There one a sponsor selling actions for $1000, but I can't remember who
Chassis will be ,MDT tac21 or Cadex.
Leaning toward a Cadex as the one I had before was very nice.
Anybody have any experience with MDI chassis?
Now for an action I'm thinking trued rem/stiller tac30.
There one a sponsor selling actions for $1000, but I can't remember who
Chassis will be ,MDT tac21 or Cadex.
Leaning toward a Cadex as the one I had before was very nice.
Anybody have any experience with MDI chassis?
Opinions will vary on this. I for one wish they would have just left it the way it was with a large rifle primer. Now if everyone buys the new brass, it may make Hornady brass more available. I gave been shooting a 6.5 CM for over 6 yrs and have had no issue whatsoever with Hornady brass.
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Lapua just announced that it will begin selling 6.5 Creedmore brass in early 2017 (in the Lapua newsletter this week).
Good news for Creedmore shooters!
Good news for Creedmore shooters!
I believe the small rifle primer is a huge improvement on this case. I expect to get similar speeds to a standard 260 with a case that is easier to load for a mag. Just look at the 308 Palma brass, if you are not running this brass you are not competitive in any major FTR comp.
My only concerns are the loss of case capacity and any changes to the over all dimensions including the neck wall thickness.
Ryan.
My only concerns are the loss of case capacity and any changes to the over all dimensions including the neck wall thickness.
Ryan.
Look at 308 Palma, 6br, 6.5 creedmoor. All premium rounds and deserve premium reloading components. In 7 years of reloading thousands of rounds I have only seen 1 hangfire. If you are having hangfire issues in cold weather make sure the rifle is functioning properly, ex some lube/ grease hinder function in cold temps.
Ryan
Cadex uses 1 mag for all SA 308, 260, 6.5 cm, 6x47, 22-250-.243, etc. so don't eliminate the caliber you like(260) until you see what mags the chassis you pick will use. IOW, you may be fine with a combo of chassis, their magazine OAL and your caliber choice with long VLD handloads.
Mystic Precision
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Not all top FTR shooters run Lapua palma brass.
I look forward to testing the SR and LR options for the 6.5 CM.
Jerry
I would be interested to see how many shooters out of the top 10 in canada shoot Palma brass. I know the top 3 canadian shooters for sure do . I would hope that all the FTR canada nation team dose.
Ryan
I shoot a 6.5x47 in the cold a lot. Not a single hangfire and I've shot most small rifle primers. The only problem I've had with hangfires was in 300wm and I used Winchester mag primers over h1000 at -15
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If you are loading for magazine length in your rifle, the x47 and CM give a bit more latitude to seat bullet out to lands and still fit in the magazine. The 260 Rem case is a bit longer and things can get a bit crowded in the magazine for target use. Just a consideration. Otherwise, all 3 do pretty much the same thing.
