6.5 Grendel?

6.5 Grendel is awesome! Less recoil than either of my 243's.
After Blakeyboys post I getting really excited too hunt with it!
Puts 5 shots around a inch at 200, no recoil and light too pack.
Going too put mine into a chassis. If you find ammo buy lots! Lol.
 
I use 350 Legends and 6mm ARCs
Ruger Ranch in 350 Legend - fabulous rifle - under 200yds
Savage Axis II in 6mm ARC for long range
I hunt Deer and black bears in my area.
Took a deer at 300yds with my ARC this year.
Dropped like a rock. 240lb whitetail buck dressed
This 6mmARC is a fine round.
I use my Ranch Rifle when I'm in my hardwoods.
I do have a Grendel but my son uses it.
I like the ARC better.
Note - the ARC and Grendel are AR capable.
Not that it matters here.
 
Interestingly, the 6.5 Grendel, 6mm ARC and 6mm PPC are close cousins of the 7.62x39mm cartridge. All of them were derived from the .220 Russian which, in turn, was a necked down 7.62x39mm cartridge.
Personally, I stick to 7.62x39mm due to the high price for the derivatives.
 
05RAV said:
Interestingly, the 6.5 Grendel, 6mm ARC and 6mm PPC are close cousins of the 7.62x39mm cartridge. All of them were derived from the .220 Russian which, in turn, was a necked down 7.62x39mm cartridge.
Personally, I stick to 7.62x39mm due to the high price for the derivatives.
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The 6.5G is a much superior cartridge compared to the 7.62 and also there’s a ton of bullets from 85 gr to 130 gr to play with .NOT hardly any in the proper diameter for the 7.62 JMO RJ
 
remington jim said:
The 6.5G is a much superior cartridge compared to the 7.62 and also there’s a ton of bullets from 85 gr to 130 gr to play with .NOT hardly any in the proper diameter for the 7.62 JMO RJ
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The 7.62x39 is mostly a win if you're buying ammo in bulk. If you're a reloader then 6.5G gets persuasive.

(And anytime I buy some of the 123 grain bullets meant for 7.62x39, they're actually for .303 Brit! That caliber is a bit out of step with the rest of the 30-cal world.)
 
remington jim said:
My Howa Mini is now fitted with a Stockys Carbon Fibre View attachment 658217 Nice Light Stock 17.5/oz bedded . RJ
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Mine came in at 18 oz, didn't bed it, seemed to fit well enough. Got to shoot on weekend, barrel knocked back to 18.5" and first 3 over 2400 (2408, 2402, 2426) then chrony took a poop or I couldn't stand in the right place and hold well, got it going again and next two read low of 2400 so average came out about 2400. At just above freezing and 2500' elevation (was ice fishing in a quiet little slough at same time). Only 51 rounds on barrel and my last howa sped up about 25 fps quite aways after 60 rounds. Not easy to shoot groups with 6x and these eyes but did throw 3 at 200 to see and was about moa, maybe a touch over, with hornady black, but tracked in well and then checked 405 yards and dialled up to 400 plus one click, hit a bit high on gong, then backed it off a click and hit just low left of bull. Again, 6x and at 405 yards...I feel pretty confident the gun can do better than me but I'll still scare the shat out of a few coyotes out there. A deer would have died on both of those 405 yard shots. So we're hunt ready now. It's 5 lb 10.5 oz scoped with the cz bottom end and will land about 5 lb 6 oz or 5 lb 6.5 oz with the hinged floor plate bottom end when it shows up. I added a 9 round shell holder to butt stock for 1 oz and an alumina flip cap on the objective end of scope for 0.5 oz and it's now 5 3/4 lb on the nose (5 lb 12 oz) with cz bottom end and will be 5 1/2 lb (5 lb 8 oz) with the hinged bottom end.

These pics is before 9 round butt stock shell holder and alumina flip cap.
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For poops and giggles I threw on my favourite prone bipod, Harris 9-13 swivel and it was 6 1/2 lbs on the nose, and hold...amazing. It may spend a lot of time with that bipod on there. Recoil energy at 5 3/4 lb will be 9.7 ft/lbs, well a little less with loaded mag and 9 in the shell carrier (about half pound of ammo at 0.6 oz a piece) and with the bipod on will be 8.6 ft/lbs, or a little less due to ammo. Pretty well rounded efficient little rig. Will hunt it for a season or two now.
 

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Great Job blakeyboy! I dig what you've done with that mini. Who did the machining on the bolt?
What is the weight of the bare rifle without magazine and what length of barrel?
 
Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Great Job blakeyboy! I dig what you've done with that mini. Who did the machining on the bolt?
What is the weight of the bare rifle without magazine and what length of barrel?
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Thank you Sir, Henry Remple got 1.5 ounce out of the action by slabbing it, then he got another 1.5 ounce out of the bolt by fluting and hollowing the handle. The barrel he cut down to 18.5" from 22, not sure what weight that cut but likely a few more ounces? He's out of Langdon just east of Calgary.

The barrelled action with action screws at 53.5 oz (3 lb 5.5 oz), then 2 ounce for talley 1" low rings, then 9.5 oz for that scope brought barrelled action it up to 4 lb 1 oz with action screws(1/2 oz for action screws). The factory bottom plastic and magazine is 3.0 oz and that stocky's stock was 18 oz that makes bare rifle at 74.5 oz or 4 lb 10.5 ounces with factory bottom plastic/magazine. With the cz bottom end and magazine bare rifle at 4 lb 15 oz.
 
blakeyboy said:
Thank you Sir, Henry Remple got 1.5 ounce out of the action by slabbing it, then he got another 1.5 ounce out of the bolt by fluting and hollowing the handle. The barrel he cut down to 18.5" from 22, not sure what weight that cut but likely a few more ounces? He's out of Langdon just east of Calgary.

The barrelled action with action screws at 53.5 oz (3 lb 5.5 oz), then 2 ounce for talley 1" low rings, then 9.5 oz for that scope brought barrelled action it up to 4 lb 1 oz with action screws(1/2 oz for action screws). The factory bottom plastic and magazine is 3.0 oz and that stocky's stock was 18 oz that makes bare rifle at 74.5 oz or 4 lb 10.5 ounces with factory bottom plastic/magazine. With the cz bottom end and magazine bare rifle at 4 lb 15 oz.
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So without that metal CZ mag we could safely guesstimate 4.5lbs? With an 18.5" barrel that's pretty impressive!
 
Desjard said:
You guys and your carbon stocks ffs making my wallet sweat lol
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If you like money pits, Howa Mini's are definitely your jam. I've been warning everyone for a long time. This thing better kill some stuff to offset the anger I have towards legacy sports and the holes in my wallet. The ruger grendel will wait patiently in the safe as it's been a rockstar for a few seasons. Good luck little Howa, your turn, better be all you can be or some lucky CGN'r will get ya. ;)
 
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Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
So without that metal CZ mag we could safely guesstimate 4.5lbs? With an 18.5" barrel that's pretty impressive!
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No, with factory bottom end bare rifle 4 lb 10.5 oz, which is 2.5 ounces over 4.5 lbs...so technically it would be 4.7 lbs (with -3.0 oz slabbed/fluted action and 3.5" of barrel chopped off the 22" standard). I think they sell the 22" with carbon stock, so one may be able to grab that listed weight, subtract what I've done to get the barrel chop estimated. Get your Google fu going. ;)

A better solution would be a Kimber 6.5 creedmoor stainless imo, those Montana's and derivatives. You'd end up in same neighborhood with proper rifle, lottery on accuracy but fixable easy enough. That's a better way to go for ultralight modern 6.5 imo. Keep warning people, you have to change everything on these and you still don't get stainless. If Kimber would chamber the grendel this howa would be for sale today lol. I'm grendel all the way so I'm stuck with this interesting pos (for ultralight grendel).
 
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blakeyboy said:
If you like money pits, Howa Mini's are definitely your jam. I've been warning everyone for a long time. This thing better kill some stuff to offset the anger I have towards legacy sports and the holes in my wallet. The ruger grendel will wait patiently in the safe as it's been a rockstar for a few seasons. Good luck little Howa, your turn, better be all you can be or some lucky CGN'r will get ya. ;)
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So what do you think is a better buy? The ruger or howa?
 
Desjard said:
So what do you think is a better buy? The ruger or howa?
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ruger every day that ends in Y and twice on Sunday's, needs nothing out of the box to meet the price you pay for it, accurate, good trigger, good stock, good bottom end, no gunsmithing required, the howa has accuracy and a decent trigger going for it, nothing else, does not meet it's value spent and cannot, you need to replace bottom plastic garbage and garbage plastic stock to get to ruger level, by then you're way pasty price of ruger, you can't build an ultralight from a ruger though, I think my ranch was about 7 lbs scoped with same scope and weaver lows, which is fine for most applications
 
blakeyboy said:
ruger every day that ends in Y and twice on Sunday's, needs nothing out of the box to meet the price you pay for it, accurate, good trigger, good stock, good bottom end, no gunsmithing required, the howa has accuracy and a decent trigger going for it, nothing else, does not meet it's value spent and cannot, you need to replace bottom plastic garbage and garbage plastic stock to get to ruger level, by then you're way pasty price of ruger, you can't build an ultralight from a ruger though, I think my ranch was about 7 lbs scoped with same scope and weaver lows, which is fine for most applications
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I was able to cut nearly half a pound off of my project Ranch in 300 HAMR' by shortening the fore-end and ditching the rubber recoil pad, and although it isn't quite finished it's nowhere near as pretty as that stockys carbon one...price was right though! Weight of the bare stock is 20ozs with magazine.

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Desjard said:
So what do you think is a better buy? The ruger or howa?
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I prefer the Ranch's for most of the reasons blakeyboy just stated. I had three Minis before I ever got my first Ranch, and once I realized how reliable and smooth feeding the Ranchs were in both STANAG and rotary form the minis went down the road. In my mind a rifle is only as good as its magazines.

Believe it or not the newer Americans with the honeycomb fore-ends are a very decent stock as polymer goes, and the dual bedding block arrangement that double as pillars allow you to really crank on those stock bolts which locks that action into the stock and is conducive to accuracy.

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No kidding! mine came from the factory with a dang good amount of torque on it lol.

And if you have a Ruger in the Grendel you can swap out the mag arrangement to the Mini 30 mags if you prefer.
 
Joel said:
No kidding! mine came from the factory with a dang good amount of torque on it lol.

And if you have a Ruger in the Grendel you can swap out the mag arrangement to the Mini 30 mags if you prefer.
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Right-on Joel, from AICS to STANAG to Ruger mini-30 and Rotary the modularity of the latest gen. American stock is tough to beat!
 
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