Not saying that Hornady did not get the speed they reported - but not many others do. Like Nosler - 165 grain in 30-06 - 3,000 fps plus with RL-22 in their 24" barrel - not seeing much other pressure tested data getting that speed with that powder and bullet weight. Can just keep shoving in more powder to get there, I guess, but then likely way over the SAAMI standard for 30-06 pressure - is an issue for some, apparently not for others? My son and I have taken multiple dozen deers - in my case since 1976 - same rifle - 165 grain bullets - a 308 Win - when load finally chronographed was at 2,800 fps muzzle, more or less. Not sure how the Nosler load for 30-06 is "better" for getting deer?