6.8mm Rem SPC for hunting ?

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I have scaled down BSA bolt action good for 223Rem.
Intend to build rifle for 12yo girl on that action b/c any caliber on 308Win brass is just to much noise and recoil for her.
250-3000Sav would be perfect but is simply to big for that action.
Was thinking 6mm-223Rem but it looks to tiny IMHO to be use full for larger game than coyotes and small deer.
I can with some milling fit 6.8mm Rem SPC into that action and that would be max that would fit.
How popular is 6.8mm Rem SPC for hunting ? How easy to get the hunting ammo for ?
Is that cartridge going to be more or less popular in the future ?
Please give me some input into the matter esp if somebody hunted with it.
GR8.
 
The 6.8 is vey popular in the US but not so much here as it just doesn’t have that mystique like 6.5 to the Canadian crowds. Having said that it is a fantastic hunting round and is superior to the 6.5 out to 300 yards then the flatter shooting Grendel begins to shine.

There are a number of hunting projectiles available, low recoil and easy to load. You will be pleasantly surprised at how good it is. Hay if the US special operations command uses it you must think it’s ok, no?
 
I've hunted with it in the past and was successful in harvesting a WT doe and coyote. I did however also lose a black bear with it. If I recall correctly the 95gr ttsx is what really makes this round shine and feel it's best suited for somebody who reloads... but then again I've never looked for it in stores either so maybe I'm wrong. Ultimately I think it would probably be a good choice for you on cpx2 class game
 
Only thing I've shot with 6.8spc is a handful of coyotes. I used the factory Hornady 110gr v-max and it absolutely hammered them. It made shooting yotes with a .223 look like they were getting bit by a mosquito in comparison.

I see no reason why it wouldn't be a great deer cartridge when loaded with an SST or TTSX.
 
todbartell said:
Should work really well for most shots inside 275 yards.
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On what ?
The question is whether large mule deer or large black bear will be safe inside 200m with reasonable vital shot placement.
6.8 SPC was developed upon US army complaint that some times half a doz shots with 223 Rem were needed to kill foreign combatants
that are half the weight of mentioned game.
I am aware that 6.8 SPC cartridge won't anchor the game at that distance but expectation of quick kill is an issue for animal sake.
 
gunrunner8 said:
On what ?
The question is whether large mule deer or large black bear will be safe inside 200m with reasonable vital shot placement.
6.8 SPC was developed upon US army complaint that some times half a doz shots with 223 Rem were needed to kill foreign combatants
that are half the weight of mentioned game.
I am aware that 6.8 SPC cartridge won't anchor the game at that distance but expectation of quick kill is an issue for animal sake.
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a .277" 110gr Nosler Accubond going 2650 fps will not bounce off a deer or bear. At 200m, the impact would be 2175 fps / 1155 ft lbs energy. Pretty similar to what a 30-30 gives at 100 yards. It will kill
 
I have a buddy that hunts with the 6.8 for big northern deer, and he has taken several big bucks in cuts out to 250 yards.
 
gunrunner8 said:
I have scaled down BSA bolt action good for 223Rem.
Intend to build rifle for 12yo girl on that action b/c any caliber on 308Win brass is just to much noise and recoil for her.
250-3000Sav would be perfect but is simply to big for that action.
Was thinking 6mm-223Rem but it looks to tiny IMHO to be use full for larger game than coyotes and small deer.
I can with some milling fit 6.8mm Rem SPC into that action and that would be max that would fit.
How popular is 6.8mm Rem SPC for hunting ? How easy to get the hunting ammo for ?
Is that cartridge going to be more or less popular in the future ?
Please give me some input into the matter esp if somebody hunted with it.
GR8.
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gunrunner8 said:
On what ?
The question is whether large mule deer or large black bear will be safe inside 200m with reasonable vital shot placement.
6.8 SPC was developed upon US army complaint that some times half a doz shots with 223 Rem were needed to kill foreign combatants
that are half the weight of mentioned game.
I am aware that 6.8 SPC cartridge won't anchor the game at that distance but expectation of quick kill is an issue for animal sake.
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Support for the 6.8 seems poor locally but that could be a local issue. You'd be needing a lot of machining to get the rifle to function with 6.8 as even the bolt would need to be modified. Probably be easier to get a Howa Mini in 6.5 Grendel or 7.62x39. I'd use either with confidence to 250 yards.
.250-3000 and .243 seemed to have imperceptible differences in like rifles in my limited experience. I only mention that to follow up with has she actually tried any .308 based cartridges?
My experience with new shooters especially female shooters is that they are done a disservice by the men mentoring them warning them away from "too large of rifles". Rather than making a big fuss of it saying it kicks a too much or it might hurt etc we should strive to say, "it isn't going to put you in the hospital" or "it is definitely easier/less painful than giving birth" and ensuring they have good form and fundamentals with a rimfire or air rifle then let them shoot to their heart or shoulders content. I am not saying don't get/offer them milder choices but let them decide.
 
I’m sure it will work well.

The 6.5 Grendel would be my pick though. I often wonder if a 6 or 6.5 Grendel had been introduced instead of the 7.62x39, would anyone have ever wanted a 5.56 or 762x39 or 6.8 SPC ? :)
 
I bet the only reason it's not popular is the fact we can't hunt with ARs here.

I like Gatehouses suggestion of a 6 or 6.5 grendel though.

Although now that I see you're in BC I can't help but wonder why you don't just leave it as a 223? They will kill deer too, just use a tsx and put it through the vitals and you're good to go.
 
Hunting big game regulations in BC requires "a 23 caliber or larger" (IIRC). And since we do not have any 23 cals, this means .244 caliber is our legal minimum.
Always thought it wierd to write the regulation in such a manner!
 
BlackRam said:
Hunting big game regulations in BC requires "a 23 caliber or larger" (IIRC). And since we do not have any 23 cals, this means .244 caliber is our legal minimum.
Always thought it wierd to write the regulation in such a manner!
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wtf.

no.

The only animal that has any caliber restrictions is Bison, and even then its not a diameter restriction, its a bullet weight and energy at 100yds limit. If you could build a 22cal that spit 175gr bullets and had 2000ft lbs energy at 100yds it would be legal for bison. For deer, if its centerfire its legal - you could legally hunt with a 17 Hornet if you wanted.
 
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My buddies daughter learned to shoot on a 308 Savage 99, she was 10 years old and maybe 80lbs lol.
There are a bunch of 223 based larger cal cartridges that offer low recoil, Winchester just came out with the 350 Legend specifically for straight walled cartridge states, it looks promising and should be pretty deadly on deer.
The BSA has some odd barrel threads which can be a bit of a problem to match a blank to if that's not been addressed yet.
 
BlackRam said:
Hunting big game regulations in BC requires "a 23 caliber or larger" (IIRC). And since we do not have any 23 cals, this means .244 caliber is our legal minimum.
Always thought it wierd to write the regulation in such a manner!
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you might want to check the regs
 
Hitzy said:
My buddies daughter learned to shoot on a 308 Savage 99, she was 10 years old and maybe 80lbs lol.
There are a bunch of 223 based larger cal cartridges that offer low recoil, Winchester just came out with the 350 Legend specifically for straight walled cartridge states, it looks promising and should be pretty deadly on deer.
The BSA has some odd barrel threads which can be a bit of a problem to match a blank to if that's not been addressed yet.
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350 Legend....
I like that idea, will find out more about it.
Despite being retired machinist and having all the time in the world that cartridge would spare me a lot of extra machining.
Thanks.
 
Hitzy said:
My buddies daughter learned to shoot on a 308 Savage 99, she was 10 years old and maybe 80lbs lol.
There are a bunch of 223 based larger cal cartridges that offer low recoil, Winchester just came out with the 350 Legend specifically for straight walled cartridge states, it looks promising and should be pretty deadly on deer.
The BSA has some odd barrel threads which can be a bit of a problem to match a blank to if that's not been addressed yet.
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That's a good call! Wish I thought of it... Lol
 
Suther said:
Although now that I see you're in BC I can't help but wonder why you don't just leave it as a 223? They will kill deer too, just use a tsx and put it through the vitals and you're good to go.
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That's not a bad idea, either. A kid that spends all summer shooting a 500 round ammo can of .223 is going to learn to be a better shot than most hunters. Then sub in some good ammo for hunting season, re zero and that's a dead deer.
 
Gatehouse said:
That's not a bad idea, either. A kid that spends all summer shooting a 500 round ammo can of .223 is going to learn to be a better shot than most hunters. Then sub in some good ammo for hunting season, re zero and that's a dead deer.
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This is the route I’m leaning towards. I’ve got two boys approaching centerfire shooting age and I’ve been batting around ideas similar to the OP. There’s a number of decent, minimal recoil, cartridges. I keep winding back to the 223 because I can load it from 22short territory up to TTSX deer/black bear territory. In between is a ton of trigger time for them to mess around with, burn powder, and become weapon proficient.

I do also like the 6.8SPC and the Grendel though hmm....
 
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