#6 Birdshot vs. Bull Moose

Hussar_ca said:
Well congrats on the staying cool part. I would have to agree that you likely would have killed the moose at that distance. I have seen that size shot at 10' blow a hole right throu 3/4" plywood.
On the note carring slugs while bird hunting etc. be careful not to tell a CO you have them. If you get a bad one (CO) you can be charged with hunting out of season. We had a guy charged during a duck hunt cause he had a slug in his pocket, when we were checked for lead shot ( i believe they gave him a $50 fine). There was no open season for any large game in that area at the time. Thou another warden at the time told us to say if we had them they were for wolves. But now some areas you need a license for them too now. This is for Ontario, I don't know about other provinces.


While it is against the law to hunt migratory birds with a gun and a single projectile, in Alberta we are allowed to hunt upland birds with a single projectile. A 12 gauge slug or 00 might be a little overkill for stump chicken but it is within the law!
 
While it is against the law to hunt migratory birds with a gun and a single projectile, in Alberta we are allowed to hunt upland birds with a single projectile. A 12 gauge slug or 00 might be a little overkill for stump chicken but it is within the law!

I never thought about it - but i guess it might well be provincial with regards to slugs. Any game warden around here who tried to argue a person SHOULDN'T have a couple of slugs for bear defense even if he's hunting grouse or geese or ducks would likely get a pretty damn lengthy lecture.

Dad always had a 'bandolier' with shells in it when we went hunting - they were all grouse rounds, but the first two were slugs and we were always taught that so if we saw a hostile animal we knew to go for the slugs. He UNFORTUNATELY neglected to mention this to a buddy who came with us one time and borrowed the shotgun :) (i think some of the feathers eventually landed in north dakota) but other than that, the wardens never gave us grief.
 
My wife would not let me shoot her telephone directory:) so I bound together 2 Russells catalogs, a wholesale sports and an SIR catalog. 2 1/4 inches. I used an 870 with skeet choke and fired 1 ¼ oz #6 shot from exactly 8 ft. Result? One ragged hole about 2 inches wide which easily went through all four copies. Now I wish I would have tried twice the thickness.
 
I'm sure that a 12 ga with birdshot would've taken the moose at that range. We regularly butcher beef with a 22 lr, the only one we had trouble with was a 2500 lb bull that required a little extra (VERY THICK SKULL), and generally at distances up to twenty yards.
Here in NS, you can be charged for carrying OO anytime and for carrying slugs outside of regular deer/ bear season.
 
nexgen said:
I'm sure that a 12 ga with birdshot would've taken the moose at that range. We regularly butcher beef with a 22 lr, the only one we had trouble with was a 2500 lb bull that required a little extra (VERY THICK SKULL), and generally at distances up to twenty yards.
Here in NS, you can be charged for carrying OO anytime and for carrying slugs outside of regular deer/ bear season.

Here in Alberta, hikers and fisherman quite often pack a shot gun loaded with slugs and/or heavy buck. Other than migratory game birds a firearm loaded with a single bullet and lead shot is permissable.
 
I wouldn't mind having the option of OO, pretty potent stuff at short range, but I think it was outlawed because people were taking shots at too great a distance and wounding too many animals. We're allowed to carry a shotgun with up to #4 buckshot year round for "other harvetable wildlife" but no single projectiles. We're not allowed to hunt grouse with a single projectile in NS either
 
In Alberta, a shot gun is the choice for most upland game, with the exception of ruffed grouse. I've used both a shot gun and a .22. but much prefer the .22 because I seem to get more shooting oportunities.
 
I tried the phone book test today as well. The book is about 2 3/16 of an inch thick and we shot it frome 6' away with a remmy 1100 with an 18" slug barrel. We used #7 1/2 target load (we didn't have any #6 handy) and then a slug. The result: An entrance hole of about 1 1/2" and a big tattered hole in the back. Looks like the wad went throug as well. The slug had a normal entrance hole but a bit bigger exit. The mass was a bit more contained on the slug but my guess is at that distance the moose would have been very dead with the birdshot.
 
I had pretty much the same thing happen to me this fall when i was duck hunting, had a big bull charge me and chase me nuts deep into the lake(it was the only way i could go lol) and i turned around and let off a shot about 10 ft above his head, he stopped then i yelled and told him to bugger off, and like what happend to sharpcdn he just walked away...
 
Foxer said:
I never thought about it - but i guess it might well be provincial with regards to slugs. Any game warden around here who tried to argue a person SHOULDN'T have a couple of slugs for bear defense even if he's hunting grouse or geese or ducks would likely get a pretty damn lengthy lecture.

Dad always had a 'bandolier' with shells in it when we went hunting - they were all grouse rounds, but the first two were slugs and we were always taught that so if we saw a hostile animal we knew to go for the slugs. He UNFORTUNATELY neglected to mention this to a buddy who came with us one time and borrowed the shotgun :) (i think some of the feathers eventually landed in north dakota) but other than that, the wardens never gave us grief.

I always carry 4 slugs in my 20 guage bandolier.

Since only waterfowl require shot, not upland birds, we are safe in BC. But even if hunitng waterfowl, unless you were in a "shotgun wiht shot only" area, I thik we would be safe,since you can always say that you are also hunting deer.:D

hell, een I kileld a deer wiht my old 20 guage autoloader mdl 42 while grouse hunitng. I just switched to slugs and the deer was dumb enough to watch me do it!:)
 
I concur with those who felt that the birdshot would have dropped that moose in it's tracks, deader'n a doornail. Shotgun inside of 10' is pretty deadly. On the angry moose encounters, I once had a big rutted up bull try to run me off. [I was moose hunting, but didn't want him!!] I finally put a 180 grain Partition through his antler at about 15 ft. He fell right down, and once he scrambled to his feet, he just knew he had to be somewhere else! :) I was a bit shaky after the fact, but not so shaky that I didn't find his actions after the shot quite amusing. He kept shaking his head as he ran off, maybe he had a bit of a headache?:D ;) Regards, Eagleye
 
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