#6 Birdshot vs. Bull Moose

we kill our own meat and a 12g will kill a moose. we used 4shot on two buffalo last fall it put a hole in the side of its head the size of a hardball. .22lr kills them two but ya gotta get them to the sqeeze then out after there dead.
 
At the range you were, there would have been no real difference between a slug and a shot charge, as long as you did your part and placed it where it was going to do the most good. The cut slug/poacher's slug/New Zealand slug/etc, has been around for long enough that many jurisdictions prohibit them (considering it evidence that you're HUNTING with one), but I certainly wouldn't consider it safe, OR shoot one out of a gun I cared about (unless I had no other choice, and a bear or other large, dangerous critter was making moves towards me).
 
Huntsman said:
An old timer showed me a trick years ago,I never tried it on animals mind you except for at the range out of curiousity.But he told me it was used back in the early days when most farmers had only a shotgun.
You take a shotgun shell(birdshot) and cut around & thru the case just above the brass.At "very close" range the whole top end wad & all is in a way a 'slug'.

I am sure I would have cut my fingers off if I was trying to prep a shell in the presence of Bullwinkle;) Beside many modern day plastic shells are more difficult to cut than old paper and sometimes it is solid plastic at the brass line.
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Besides, why would you want to shoot something as lovable as a moose? :D (just kidding, I know what they can do, under the right circumstances)

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Me? No, sorry, those are the only two I have; these are of a friend in Northern BC, who had an orphan moose start hanging around his place after the mother was hit by a truck. He (the moose) liked it enough that he came back the 2nd year, so my friend spray-painted him fluorescent pink so people in the area would know to leave him alone, but he stopped coming back the year after that.
 
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Houligan said:
That bird shot would have knocked him on his ass, by the time you pumped 3 of them in his face, he would be done. I am with Tod on the slug deal too, .350 grains of lead would kill pretty much anything. :twisted:
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x2.......I would have gladly traded my 308 Norma this year for a 12g with #6 (a bull moose took a run at me this year and I killed it at 8ft, minus the length of my barrel so more like 6ft) And I have a witness (he thinks it was 5 ft).
 
Wow, haven't any of you keyboard jockeys ever butchered a beef? Around here, a 12 ga at about 10 ft. range, loaded with ANYTHING is the tool of choice. It blows a big hole in the skull, and doesn't go any further, so it's a safe choice in a farmyard, and much more effective than the other typical tool, a .22 between the eyes, which works only some of the time and therefore isn't very humane.

Your shotgun with 1-1/2 oz of #6 would have been a perfectly adequate moose defence gun. Congratulations on keeping cool, glad you both lived! By the way, I did have to kill a young Hereford once that was blind and therefore needed to be put down. 12 ga, 1-1/4 oz #4 lead, full choke. For no good reason I aimed for the neck at about 15' - and the result was instant death from a broken neck and severed carotid artery.
I wish I could recall exactly where I read about a grouse shooter in Kenya who shot the top of the skull off of a lioness at spitting distance when it charged out of tall grass - with a 20 ga. skeet gun and 7/8 oz of #8's!!
The key is the compact swarm of shot - at more than about 15 feet, your birdshot would have left a bad wound, but would not likely kill a moose outright.
The most ridiculous match of gun to threat I've personally experienced was when I awoke in a wilderness camp one morning to find a bear outside my van ( I was sleeping in the back on the floor) . When he showed an interest in my cooler under the picnic table, I shot him in the butt with a .177 pellet gun. Re ran away and didn't come back, but then I left that spot too!
 
Your shotgun with 1-1/2 oz of #6 would have been a perfectly adequate moose defence gun. Congratulations on keeping cool, glad you both lived!
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Probably true enough. But.. ahh.. i hope nonetheless you've learned the value of keeping a couple slugs in your pocket when you're out with your shotgun, just in case :) Then there's no guessing.
 
nighttime said:
we kill our own meat and a 12g will kill a moose. we used 4shot on two buffalo last fall it put a hole in the side of its head the size of a hardball. .22lr kills them two but ya gotta get them to the sqeeze then out after there dead.
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Your Brilliance is exceeded only by your willingness to share it with others.:p :dancingbanana:
 
Well congrats on the staying cool part. I would have to agree that you likely would have killed the moose at that distance. I have seen that size shot at 10' blow a hole right throu 3/4" plywood.
On the note carring slugs while bird hunting etc. be careful not to tell a CO you have them. If you get a bad one (CO) you can be charged with hunting out of season. We had a guy charged during a duck hunt cause he had a slug in his pocket, when we were checked for lead shot ( i believe they gave him a $50 fine). There was no open season for any large game in that area at the time. Thou another warden at the time told us to say if we had them they were for wolves. But now some areas you need a license for them too now. This is for Ontario, I don't know about other provinces.
 
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