6 x 62 Freres

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Anybody out there with actual experience with this cartridge? I am not interested in google search data, thanks, just personal experience. I have load data from a computer program, but none from actual users.

Doug
 
Sorry, chum... I have nothing on that one, however the data indicates that it is duplicated by many other more common cartridges... which is probably a better way to go.
 
Yes, my friend Mister Google has shown me quite a bit of data. But I am hoping for some personal experience.

Doug
 
So, here is a bit of an update, and to bring this onto the first page again......The published data seems to indicate a maximum COAL of 3.23". BUT in my rifle that bullet is well into the rifling and pressure, already fairly high, might get catastrophically so. I decided I want to try a 103 grain Hornady ELD-X bullet for my first load, and it has to be seated quite a bit deeper, for a COAL of 3.1675". I am waiting for another member here who has a couple computer load data programs, to suggest a starting load. Looks like H1000 will be the first powder to try.

So>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anybody out there with real world experience with this cartridge?

Doug
 
So, here is a bit of an update, and to bring this onto the first page again......The published data seems to indicate a maximum COAL of 3.23". BUT in my rifle that bullet is well into the rifling and pressure, already fairly high, might get catastrophically so. I decided I want to try a 103 grain Hornady ELD-X bullet for my first load, and it has to be seated quite a bit deeper, for a COAL of 3.1675". I am waiting for another member here who has a couple computer load data programs, to suggest a starting load. Looks like H1000 will be the first powder to try.

So>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anybody out there with real world experience with this cartridge?

Doug
What is the barrel length and twist? You may not be able to stabilize that bullet.
 
Foreword apology, this isn’t 6 Frere real world experience, just thoughts from the fast and small world. There’s merit in the 6mm-7mm hyper speed concept for long zeros, you can have +\- 4” to well over 350 yards with many of the options in the class.

Not the same thing, but a quick comparison shows them to be remarkably similar. I collected everything for a .25 Gibbs when I was very goat minded, 1/9 twist. Idea was to shoot as far as possible with a long zero and dead hold, which it will do to 350 yards easily. I geared up with 115 Bergers.

I had .257 Roberts at the time, and found on the range I could generate similar long zero shooting with it by dropping the bullet weight, so I gave up on the Gibbs. But when looking to extract every bit of speed and range… there’d be a difference. The easiest way into that world is the ‘Bee of course. But it’s not for everyone.
 
It has a VERY short barrel, at only 18 inches. Not the length I would have chosen for this chambering, but I did not have it built. The twist is 1:7, so it should stabilize the heavier bullets. I reckon I am going to find out.........

Doug
 
Ardent, Thanks for your input. I have had a couple rifles in .240 Weatherby, great cartridge but all I ever shot with it was paper. If my research so far is correct (and it is from the Internet :rolleyes: ) then the starting load data for the 6 x 62 Freres is the .240 Wby data.

Load data is all black magic to me even after loading for well over a hundred different cartridges and who knows how many recipes! Without data I have no earthly idea what might be a good powder choice, etc etc.

Doug
 
It has a VERY short barrel, at only 18 inches. Not the length I would have chosen for this chambering, but I did not have it built. The twist is 1:7, so it should stabilize the heavier bullets. I reckon I am going to find out.........

Doug
Yeah, 1:7 should easily stabilize that bullet... can you describe your rifle for us?
 
Yeah, 1:7 should easily stabilize that bullet... can you describe your rifle for us?
Here is the seller's description:

The rifle: unfired, nicely ceracoated Brno zg-47
Custom stock, high grade wood, glass bedded. This is an exceptionally fine stock

Lothar walther barrel 1:7 twist designed to shoot the heavies. 18” long

Chambered in 6x62 freres

Rings included, also comes with a custom picatiny rail

Checkered steel buttplate
 
Here is the seller's description:

The rifle: unfired, nicely ceracoated Brno zg-47
Custom stock, high grade wood, glass bedded. This is an exceptionally fine stock

Lothar walther barrel 1:7 twist designed to shoot the heavies. 18” long

Chambered in 6x62 freres

Rings included, also comes with a custom picatiny rail

Checkered steel buttplate
Nice... post some pics when you can.
 
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