60 gr .22LR Aguila Sniper Subsonic ammo

I don't believe there is a Canadian Importer for Aguila in Canada. The only ammo you will be able to find is stuff people brought into the country illegally, the odd box or two shows up at gunshows.
 
Not if no one is importing it...

Why do people want this stuff so badly? It shoots like crap even out of a 1-9 barrel, and conventinal SS HPs give better terminal performance on game. There is nothing this round does that one form or another of conventional .22LR ammo can't do better, with higher accuracy. From a 10/22, the port noise is also much louder due to the short case.
 
kombayotch said:
Not if no one is importing it...

Why do people want this stuff so badly? It shoots like crap even out of a 1-9 barrel, and conventinal SS HPs give better terminal performance on game. There is nothing this round does that one form or another of conventional .22LR ammo can't do better, with higher accuracy. From a 10/22, the port noise is also much louder due to the short case.
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Simple if you want to shoot subsonic only and still have good kinetic energy comparable to high velocity you need a heavier bullet. I challenge you to find a subsonic .22 round that can produce 120ftlbs of energy. As far as accuracy it shoots very accurately in my rifle. if you want quiet you should be using a bolt action instead of a semi.
 
Unless you're using a supressor (which you can't here legally), there is no reason why it needs to be subsonic. It still isn't hearing safe coming from a bolt gun...
 
I have never tried this ammo before. I have never seen it anywhere. But I do like the remington subsonics.

I got into subsonics hunting rabbits in the winter time in tight birch forests near a lake. The echo there is brutal, even with a .22. So the subsonic ammo DEFINATELY makes a huge difference. The remington's became my favourite when I found them to be the most effective. They have a very large hollowpoint. I have some fancy, expensive eyley (I cant rememebr how to spell it) and its no quieter than the remington and its just a round nose.
 
kombayotch said:
Unless you're using a supressor (which you can't here legally), there is no reason why it needs to be subsonic. It still isn't hearing safe coming from a bolt gun...
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If you look at the published speed of many 22 LR match/target ammunition, almost all of the 'good stuff' is at subsonic velocity. It has alot to do with stability of the round. Hence more accurate.
 
Thats funny... that bullet won't stabalize in conventional 1-16 rifling at subsonic velocities.

For hunting, subsonic is nice since it doesn't scare the game as much. But this 60 gr. stuff penetrates with no expansion whatsoever. 40 gr. SS HP is far more effective on animals. The 60 gr. round would have an advantage in silhouette, if you were limited to subsonic rounds. But, you aren't...
 
Brutus said:
If you look at the published speed of many 22 LR match/target ammunition, almost all of the 'good stuff' is at subsonic velocity. It has alot to do with stability of the round. Hence more accurate.
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+1. All the good match ammo is subsonic because accuracy suffers if the bullet has to cross through the transonic region on the way to the target. Centerfire shooters have the same problems in long distance shooting, bullets will often become unstable and begin tumbling as they cross the sound barrier.

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
+1. All the good match ammo is subsonic because accuracy suffers if the bullet has to cross through the transonic region on the way to the target. Centerfire shooters have the same problems in long distance shooting, bullets will often become unstable and begin tumbling as they cross the sound barrier.

Mark
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I use Fed 1200 fps at the muzzle in my handgun. I never had any tumble. Nice clean holes. I am sure they would drop to subsonic at 1108 fps (US Military definition) by 20 yrds.
 
Trotter said:
I use Fed 1200 fps at the muzzle in my handgun. I never had any tumble. Nice clean holes. I am sure they would drop to subsonic at 1108 fps (US Military definition) by 20 yrds.
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Most ISSF/ISU shooting comp's are at 50 meters for rifle, and ISSF Free Pistol is also shot only at 50 as well.
What may appear to shoot well at 20, may not deliver the goods at 50 meters during a formal match.

Everyone's needs are different.
 
Trotter said:
I use Fed 1200 fps at the muzzle in my handgun. I never had any tumble. Nice clean holes. I am sure they would drop to subsonic at 1108 fps (US Military definition) by 20 yrds.
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I'm not saying it WILL happen, just that it DOES happen often enough to be something that is avoided if possible.

Did you chronograph the ammo from your pistol? It may have been subsonic at the muzzle, considering the 1200fps rating is probably out of a rifle.

Not all bullets will tumble as they slow through the sound barrier, but they all experience buffeting and turbulence and that negatively affects accuracy. Don't take my word on it, check with the multitude of ammo makers who only make target ammo in subsonic form. They are not worried about suppressor use or noise, they are concerned with the most consistent ammo they can make and that is always subsonic.

Mark
 
Trotter said:
I use Fed 1200 fps at the muzzle in my handgun. I never had any tumble. Nice clean holes. I am sure they would drop to subsonic at 1108 fps (US Military definition) by 20 yrds.
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your federal is subsonic if fired from a handgun.
 
Wrong Way said:
That's expensive? Last I saw it was going for a buck a round now.
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Are you ####ting us? $1 per round of .22RF ammo? If someone believes in the hype that bad then there is truth to the saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted.".
 
I would pay 50 cents, maybe a buck for a single round for my cartridge collection, but for shooting quantities, NFW
 
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