600 yard MOA Moose rifle build - 300 WSM or 300 WIN Mag? Sako/Tikka/Weatherby/Kimber?

Tikkam65 said:
Yea 500 yards with the right gear is not a tuff shot by any means
and yes at 500 yards with my little 6.5 x55 I'd stop a moose no problem
just dropped a 980 lb elk at 350 I have been hunting elk and moose for over 40 years and moose fall over elk don't
im shooting a 6.5 x55 and running a 140 grain at 3040 hot leaving the muzzel I have the same energy as as a 300 win mag 190 grain at 1000 yards
and I penetrate better every time . I always leave a big hole and the 300 dosent push through
this year
elk at 350
elk at 600
elk at 850

last year
562
650
lots at 350 - 500
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Very nice! What kind of rig do you have for those kind of shots? I had heard of guys who hunt moose with 6.5x55 and said they never had a problem. Found it interesting that you have better penetration then the 30 cal WinMag. I might need to reconsider or get one of each and try em both!
 
I find it tough to beleive that the 6.5x55 is squirting them 140's out at 3040 fps ( I load for one so I have an idea).......thats at .264 win mag velocities in a 26" barrel so pressures must be well above 70,000 psi.....not safe or smart. Same energy at 1000 yards.....yup dont disagree there but the topic is moose at 500-600......again the big 30's and .338 take firsts and second place with out question....add in there the beloved 378 Weatherby and now your talking about moose medicine!
 
sunray said:
600 yards is way too far for any cartridge to make a clean kill regardless of the shooter's skill. Energy just isn't there at those distances. And the kill zone on Bullwinkle is a lot smaller than any target's bull. Think about 9", not 24.
A 180(nobody loads 200 plus) WSM does have a slight advantage, but both drop over 30"(the Win drops a meter) at 500 with under 2,000 ft/lbs. of energy.
Otherwise, one hunting rifle is the same as any other.
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Wow, I'm shooting 1400m with my Rem XCR .338 Lapua mag .250gr 2880fps
Very accurate with lots of power.
The moose in our area have much a larger kill zone than 9"
 
guntech said:
I have a customer who can shoot smaller than 9 inches at 900 yards... and dropped a moose at 852 yards with one shot. 338 Edge and 300 grain. He is not the only one out there.



Some recent comments in another thread about the prolific sunray!

Again with Sunray's seagull imitation; swoops in, squawks, drops a load of Guano and flies away to the next.

I have to agree... it doesn't matter what the subject is, whether he has any knowledge of it, the Guano gets left...

I don't think Sunray knows how to search his own posts in order to revisit them. Lol!
Its just stop, plop, and go!
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Ole Sunray don't debate much, and he obviously doesn't visit his previous posts or he'd get his feelings hurt and quit. But instead of ignoring the dope, we have to keep slagging him so some some youngster doesn't believe his crap just because he's got a high post count. Being wrong 21,454 times must be some kind of record.
 
djt said:
Wow, I'm shooting 1400m with my Rem XCR .338 Lapua mag .250gr 2880fps
Very accurate with lots of power.
The moose in our area have much a larger kill zone than 9"
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Don't worry about it, the only moose Sunray's ever seen is Bullwinkle, he's never shot at long range, and its possible he's never held a rifle.
 
Hopefully you will ensure that lighting conditions are perfect and no other hunter pops out mid range on a quad or stands up while your bullet is in flight.
 
Tikkam65 said:
Yea 500 yards with the right gear is not a tuff shot by any means
and yes at 500 yards with my little 6.5 x55 I'd stop a moose no problem
just dropped a 980 lb elk at 350 I have been hunting elk and moose for over 40 years and moose fall over elk don't
im shooting a 6.5 x55 and running a 140 grain at 3040 hot leaving the muzzel I have the same energy as as a 300 win mag 190 grain at 1000 yards
and I penetrate better every time . I always leave a big hole and the 300 dosent push through
this year
elk at 350
elk at 600
elk at 850

last year
562
650
lots at 350 - 500
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Either your barrel is 30" long, or you need to get your money back from whoever sold you that chronograph.
 
Nope running a 26 inch barrel and 49 grains of r22
and this load is so hot I can shoot it I summer but at 15 degrees I get super groups out of my heavy varmit barrel
 
Boomer said:
Either your barrel is 30" long, or you need to get your money back from whoever sold you that chronograph.
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I agree with Boomer..........your getting some wrong numbers some where!!!
Here is what alliant lists for the Swede:
Remington 3 24 CCI 200 Reloder 22 45 2,655 - View this recipe


So to add 4 grains of powder and get 400 fps is just not physically possible!
 
Just got my boy to check my load data and I'm running 47.5 gr. Reloader 22 and my avg. velocity with 140 smk's is 2720 fps!!! That's in a '98 Swede and that's all she's got,!

Like I said before your running in the danger zone on pressure if your that high in velocity!!!!

One thing I have run into with alliant powders too is when working up a load you will find that the velocity reaches a plateau and then another .5 gr increment and the pressure spikes really bad!! Forget making loads in the winter or cooler months and expect to shoot them in the warmer summer months!!! Pressure galore!!!
 
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Tikkam65 said:
Yea 500 yards with the right gear is not a tuff shot by any means
and yes at 500 yards with my little 6.5 x55 I'd stop a moose no problem
just dropped a 980 lb elk at 350 I have been hunting elk and moose for over 40 years and moose fall over elk don't
im shooting a 6.5 x55 and running a 140 grain at 3040 hot leaving the muzzel I have the same energy as as a 300 win mag 190 grain at 1000 yards
and I penetrate better every time . I always leave a big hole and the 300 dosent push through
this year
elk at 350
elk at 600
elk at 850

last year
562
650
lots at 350 - 500
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You are underestimating your audience.
 
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