7.62x39 bolt gun which one?
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If it works, it works.
Our guns are for fun and as tools. If they accomplish those goals, then who's to say it doesn't "work"?
Correct. If you are limiting yourself to about 200m, you are fine. The big advantage is low recoil, of course, because the short cartridge does not allow for much powder. I switched to my Ruger Ranch in 308 and slapped a limbsaver pad on. The 7.62x39 is reserved for my semis. For now Ruger is not selling the gen2 in 7.62x39 in the US. It is reserved for countries with existing semi auto restrictions or upcoming like us.
For the same 200 meters and low recoil, a starting charge of IMR 4198 and a Barnes 110gr TTSX wont be that much worse and only 8gr more powder or so. Gonna be using that next season
It just ain't cheap!
The Gen II in 7.62x39 is absolutely for sale in the US right now.
It just ain't cheap!
The Gen II in 7.62x39 is absolutely for sale in the US right now.
I checked the Ruger US site and it says currently unavailable:
https://ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanchGenII/models.html?n=ov
Probably wrong because I see reviews from the US now.
Not arguing about that point, about the presence of limitations of intermediate length cartridge. I was pointing out that cartridge limitations did not come from "constrained assault rifle mag lengths" as you said above. Both SKS-45 and AK-47 were built for M43 cartridge, not visa versa. The only limitations that M43 has came from its designers, Red Army requirements in 1943-1945 and "state of the art" manufacturing facilities of USSR.
I'm not interested in arguing over semantics.
The 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge designed for use in intermediate cartridge host rifles. That's what I've been inferring since my first comment.
I think he is saying the cartridge came first and rifles are designed to use it.
You're still not getting it. Not semantics, but simple facts. What you reiterated above is nonsense to put it mildly. They could have designed perfect 300 blackout back in 1943, they did not because they had their reasons and consideration and none of those reasons was "it won't fit into constrained magazine".
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I think you are reading way too much into that one sentence in order to setup an argument.
It’s in Canada, well one is at least since I bought one late last week.
Not that I'd buy it,but Lapua 7.62x39 brass. With Winchester brass ,Re7 powder and Hornady 123gr bullets I get 1" to 1.25" 3 shot groups at 100yds.(This was with an old Ruger M77 7.62x39 Stainless with Paddle stock, Bushnell 4x scope).
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That's pretty decent. I didn't realize Lapua made brass for the cartridge.
7.62x39 is a fun round. I have an AK47 that's currently at a friend's place, and that's a really fun gun to shoot.
I've never shot this cartridge from a bolt gun.
You don't know what you're missing.
It pretty much duplicates the performance of cartridges in the 30BR class, and when it's chambered in GOOD rifles and fed GOOD bullets its performance and accuracy can be very pleasing.
It's great for shooting Deer from tree stands or blinds, where shots are often limited to a hundred yards or less.
If you want to do a day of shooting at the range, especially when you want to practice offhand, kneeling, and other positions, it's cheap and easy on the shoulder.
The rifles tend to be lighter so they're easy to handle during most commonly used shooting positions.
How often have you had to shoot from a position that requires your rifle to be held at an angle? Likely not often, but sometimes, especially from a tree stand or from a blind, such a position is required or you have to show yourself and spook the quarry.
I really like shooting this little cartridge out of my Howa 1500, which is very accurate and predictable during most situations I've encountered with it.
I've always been impressed by how much these intermediate cartridges can do.
Of course, they all have their limits, and if you're a "one gun" person, this might not be a good choice.
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I just wanted to add a target from last Fall, shot with my Ruger Ranch in X39, using Chinese-MS and some Barnaul SP. I just had a Bushnell 3-9x40 with a duplex so the first 4-shots were 'figuring the hold', then the remainder with both ammos was a group 3" H by 4.5" W. I replaced that scope with a 6.5-20x44 Viper and got MOA at 100, no shots further yet. The distance Below was actually 175yd per my laser, I was told 180 by the RO ;-(
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who would have thought
Good grief! I was looking up my rifle online cause I'm too lazy to go downstairs and dig through the safe to look at barrel markings to be sure about Model and was shocked by what I found. A place called LSB investments sold the same model rifle for $2500U.S. I bought it in 1992 for $600 Cdn. Other sites had prices for used examples at the $1100-1400 U.S. range. I was thinking about selling it awhile back, I don't think so. But sheesh money is pretty worthless anymore.
Good grief! I was looking up my rifle online cause I'm too lazy to go downstairs and dig through the safe to look at barrel markings to be sure about Model and was shocked by what I found. A place called LSB investments sold the same model rifle for $2500U.S. I bought it in 1992 for $600 Cdn. Other sites had prices for used examples at the $1100-1400 U.S. range. I was thinking about selling it awhile back, I don't think so. But sheesh money is pretty worthless anymore.
