7.62x39 caliber. Do you use it for hunting? Range?

Lol...... Very simple question that you have yet to answer..... Yet one you asserted...... Is the 7.62 x 39 safer in a situation where there may be a person or a building in the background?

Does shooting a 7.62 make you any safer than someone shooting something more "powerful" in the same situation? ...... Keeping in mind you should know your target and beyond.... Does it give you the ability to relax the safety rules?..... It's a very simple yes l no answer that you have yet to provide....

I answer the question by thinking about it, and rinding ways to reduce risk in the first place. If your arrogant enough to not want to reduce risk in any way possible, your probably not the guy that a farmer will be willing to open his land to. It's called increasing the safety factor, but obviously that doesn't matter to you, as you seem to think that your still in control of that bullet after you've pulled the trigger.
Ivor
 
Most areas that are "shotgun only" has been identified as an area that has potential to be dangerous to hunt if centerfire rifles are used due to rifle bullets traveling so much further than shotgun ammunition. These areas are defined so that you can continue hunting with less risk. It's an established concept.

We all want to adhere to knowing what your target is and beyond, but there is no doubt that using less powerful cartridges in some areas can reduce risk. It's more of a extra precaution if something goes wrong,. There is really no need to turn this into a safety discussion, as nobody is suggesting that it's wrong to shoot at an animal with a .300 with a house right behind it, but if you use a x39 it's okay.
 
I use the 7.63x39 because most of my hunting is done under 100yds and ammo is dirt cheap to practice in my bolt actions. No SKS's here, well I do have one, but it's still in the grease since I bought it a decade ago.
I also have a .308 and 6.5x55 when I need to stretch that distance. I don't limit myself to one cartridge or another, but I normally carry my .308 in the woods because it's still put the most deer in the freezer and has been with me since I was young. I've even replaced the worn out barrel in that .308.
The 7.62x39 with handloads gets it done to 300 meters max with good bullet placement, but the energy dissipates quickly past that and wind deflects it horribly too.

Having said that, after firing several thousands of rounds of 7.62x39 at various distances up to 900 meters you learn exactly what it can and can't do.
I treat all cartridges with the same safety factor. Know what's beyond the target before firing. Many things unforeseen can happen including ricochets.
 
So is 308 a golden middle then? Still thinking x54 could do the job... What 3 rifles would you guys choose from at more budget oriented, but not forgetting of quality? I might even go with no scope for a while and get it later to not trip WiFi'es guards..
 
I answer the question by thinking about it, and rinding ways to reduce risk in the first place. If your arrogant enough to not want to reduce risk in any way possible, your probably not the guy that a farmer will be willing to open his land to. It's called increasing the safety factor, but obviously that doesn't matter to you, as you seem to think that your still in control of that bullet after you've pulled the trigger.
Ivor

I don't hunt in areas where I will get a building as my back drop, I don't hunt in areas where the bush is loaded with other hunters and I don't shoot at my prey without ensuring that I have a sufficient backstop, whether that be a hill, the ground (from a tree stand) or thick woods..... All of these are proper ways to ELIMINATE the risk.....

Thinking that you are somehow REDUCING the risk in the scenario you described while admitting you are still taking on some risk only further proves my point....
 
So is 308 a golden middle then? Still thinking x54 could do the job... What 3 rifles would you guys choose from at more budget oriented, but not forgetting of quality? I might even go with no scope for a while and get it later to not trip WiFi'es guards..

There are tons of cartridges between the x39 and the .308 and tons more past the .308...... I think we need a better understanding of what you want to use the rifle for before giving a recommendation....
 
Superbrad, you hate x39 and everything about it, never miss an opportunity to bloviate in any thread that even mentions the cartridge.

Move... On...
 
Superbrad, you hate x39 and everything about it, never miss an opportunity to bloviate in any thread that even mentions the cartridge.

Move... On...

Actually, I have nothing against the 7.62 x 39..... It's just another cartridge in the sea of cartridges, which all have their place.... not a fan of SKS for hunting, but that's a whole other topic altogether......

I also don't think telling someone who is obviously fairly new to hunting / firearms that selecting a particular cartridge over another will somehow make him a safer hunter and reduce the risk of him shooting someone in a crowded forest is a great idea either......
 
Superbrad, you hate x39 and everything about it, never miss an opportunity to bloviate in any thread that even mentions the cartridge.

Move... On...

I love the 7.62X39 cartridge (do not like the SKS)... I have shot it in many platforms and hunted with it... but I agree with Brad... this was not an argument about the cartridge.
 
I don't hunt in areas where I will get a building as my back drop, I don't hunt in areas where the bush is loaded with other hunters and I don't shoot at my prey without ensuring that I have a sufficient backstop, whether that be a hill, the ground (from a tree stand) or thick woods..... All of these are proper ways to ELIMINATE the risk.....

Thinking that you are somehow REDUCING the risk in the scenario you described while admitting you are still taking on some risk only further proves my point....

While you are absolutely correct about backdrop/backstops. What I think Ivor and others are talking about more applies to the risks of ricochet. As an example you are looking to shoot a deer and there may be a house far left or right of the target way off in the distance (>1-2 km) and no where near being in the sight picture/backdrop of the target but if the shooter misses and hits a rock or has a pass through with the deer and there is a ricochet off a bone, the idea is that a lower powered cartridge will not travel as far as a more powerful calibre on a ricochet path reducing the freak chance of an injury or death or hitting infrastructure.
 
Actually, I have nothing against the 7.62 x 39..... It's just another cartridge in the sea of cartridges, which all have their place.... not a fan of SKS for hunting, but that's a whole other topic altogether......

I also don't think telling someone who is obviously fairly new to hunting / firearms that selecting a particular cartridge over another will somehow make him a safer hunter and reduce the risk of him shooting someone in a crowded forest is a great idea either......
I'm 45 and I've been hunting since I was 6. Your the moron that appears to have minimal real experience.
Ivor
 
After many years of open sighted Winchesters I used for close range woods hunting, I use my Ruger Mini 30 with WW PSP ammo. My eyes are not so good anymore for open sights and I have less time for range practice with them sights. I felt I needed to use a scoped rifle and already owned the Mini. With a 1.5 x 5 scope I keep cranked at 1.5, I have no need for a bigger caliber. Shots never exceeded 60 yards and one deer went 40yards before dropping dead, the others went less than that. The scope also helps in low light conditions. To me it's a 100yds proposition and I'll use something else if I hunt elsewhere and shots are at a longer range.
 
So hunting only up to 200m? Would anyone ever hunt further animal? Sorry im new

If you're new, make it 100 or less. And practice with both surplus and quality hunting ammo. Use the surplus to develop basic shooting skills, then sight in and practice with the brand of ammo you intend to hunt with. Mfs is low end, Hornady sst's are the bomb.
 
I killed a large whitetail buck at 304 yards using a 123gr Hornady SP out of a Ruger Compact M77. The bullet travelled through both lungs and out the other side. The deer went 10yds into the bush and laid down. This is now my dedicated deer gun, it's lighter than my 77/22 and is super accurate.

Know your trajectory if shooting beyond 150yds.
 
So hunting only up to 200m? Would anyone ever hunt further animal? Sorry im new

What other caliber would you recommend thatvis stronger?
Still be good to have such, that gives you flexibility to have a lot of fun at the range for cheap, but would work well during hunt.

Big Game Cartridges and Rifles . . .
The primary advantage the 7.62X39 has over other .30 caliber cartridges that are normally deemed suitable for big game hunting, is that it can be had in a small light rifle, that doesn't produce an obnoxious level of recoil or muzzle blast. Smaller, lighter, hunting rifles were the premise behind the .308 over the .30/06, the .300 WSM over the .300 Winchester, the .375 Ruger over the .375 H&H, and the 7.62X39 bolt gun has a size advantage over it's larger kin, while having the terminal performance necessary to kill medium sized big game in a humane manner. The .30 Carbine cartridge is unsuitable for any big game hunting, the .300 Blackout has ballistics similar to the X39, but .300 Blackout ammunition is tougher to find. The .308 is a general purpose big game cartridge, whereas the X39 is a niche cartridge, with a defined purpose much narrower in scope. If you want more versatility than can be had from the 7.62X39, cartridges beginning with those in the 6.5X55 class, without exceeding the .30/06, which might prove to be too much of a good thing for a novice, are better choices.

IMHO, the right rifle for an individual wanting to hunt in southern Saskatchewan, is one that will dive a bullet with a high ballistic coefficient (meaning its pointed so it can more easily overcome air resistance) that weighs between 130 and 150 grs, and has a muzzle velocity between 2700 and 3000 fps. You might choose a .260 Remington, a 7-08 or a .308 if you prefer a short action rifle, or a 6.5X55, a 270, a .280, or a .30/06 if you prefer a long action rifle. The rifle would typically wear an optical sight; the advantage of a scope is not magnification, its that the aiming point and the target appear in simultaneous focus on the same focal plane, whereas irons sights and the target can only be individually focused upon, since they are each at a different distance from the eye. Thus the scope is more precise even at 1X, where its field of view is widest, and the field of view is reduced as magnification increases. In the field of view of a high powered target scope or a varmint scope, you might not even be able to see the entire animal at close range, and if the animal moves, it would be impossible to track it with the scope. While quality iron sights are desirable on a hunting rifle, for most hunters they limit the maximum range to 100 yards or less, so the correct choice of scope, goes hand in hand with the correct choice of rifle. A fixed 6X scope is reasonably affordable, compact, lightweight, and is suitable for hunting big game in the open country found across southern Saskatchewan. Look for a Remington 700, a Winchester M-70, a Weatherby Vanguard, or a Ruger 77 or Hawkeye. If you are unable to find an affordable new rifle, check out a used rifle in the EE or from Tradex. The Tradex link can be found at the top of the page; they'll treat you well, and will guide you towards a good rifle that you can afford if you ask them to.

Big Game Hunting Ranges . . .
The range at which a hunter can engage big game with a rifle is limited by his competence, his self imposed limitations, and by his equipment. There is a small percentage of hunters who can ethically shoot game beyond half a mile; they have made the investment in equipment and training to reach and maintain that level of competence. Shooting is a diminishable skill, so what you could do last year does not necessarily reflect what you can do today, if you haven't shot on a regular basis. Speaking frankly, a hunter has no business shooting at game beyond his ability, and he doesn't know what his limitations are unless he's done it. So the guy who sights in his rifle to hit a couple of inches high at 100 yards, with the idea of being able to hold right on out to 250, doesn't know if he can hit anything at 250 yards, or 200 yards for that matter, unless he shoots at those longer ranges, in a variety of light and environmental conditions, with that sight setting, and with that ammunition, from field shooting positions. I believe that given a little practice, shots on big game out to 300 yards are within the ability of anyone willing to take the trouble to learn how.
 
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