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7.62x54R Surplus drying up?
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Yeah, according to Can Am, all the surplus Norc Yellow and white box .556 is gone. Only place you'll find it now is a gun show.
I just scored two 440 rnd cans at a gun show for $225. Just over .25 rnd. Boils down to the old adage: Two things you never want to run low on in life - a$$wipe and ammunition.
that looks like a great deal.
Eventually all milsurp ammo will dry up, just think of 303 British, 8mm Mauser, 30-06... the Swiss GP11is next on the list
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So has there been any more updates on when TradeEx will be receiving the 54R? Seeing as we're getting pretty close to the end of that 2 week window?
gewehr76
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Let me put it in perspective.
There are hundreds of thousands of if not millions of pkm machine guns, thousands of gorunov mgs, may be millions of other automatic and semi automatic firearms worldwide, that are still in use by standing armies of the world. All these guns fire 7.62x54. There is no way that it will ever dry up. There will be surplus ammo that certain countries will sell off, but overall x54r will never meet the faith of 303, 8 mm or such, because there is too much invested in firearms that fire this longest serving cartridge in the world.
There are hundreds of thousands of if not millions of pkm machine guns, thousands of gorunov mgs, may be millions of other automatic and semi automatic firearms worldwide, that are still in use by standing armies of the world. All these guns fire 7.62x54. There is no way that it will ever dry up. There will be surplus ammo that certain countries will sell off, but overall x54r will never meet the faith of 303, 8 mm or such, because there is too much invested in firearms that fire this longest serving cartridge in the world.
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But just because that ammo is used doesn't mean we will have it cheap. Look at 7.62 Nato and how the price is constantly climbing despite still being a widely used round.
gewehr76
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Who knows what prices importers will slap on surplus in the future. Wars are good for new production, not old stuff. If conflicts around the world become hot, ammo consumption of new production goes up. Surplus is used for training or just as aid. 308 is drop in the bucket comparing to x54r.
GunsNotPuns
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Start reloading. Plenty of brass courtesy of PPU, you'll make better stuff then the milsurp ammo and you won't have to put up with corrosive primers.
M91/30s are easy on the brass but SVT-40s have fluted chambers, which leaves its distinctive marks, and the rifle can also can be rough on brass if you have to shoot with the gas port opened up.
M91/30s are easy on the brass but SVT-40s have fluted chambers, which leaves its distinctive marks, and the rifle can also can be rough on brass if you have to shoot with the gas port opened up.
gewehr76
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X54 reloding is expensive. 308 can do the same with less powder.
In reality reloading is the last resort, when no ammo available anywhere. X54 is best with steel cases as they are cheaper and can handle higher pressures. In North America this caliber is odd ball as it is rimmed and its dimensions fall in weird metric speck, sometimes confused with 7.62 Soviet caliber.
In any case x54r is going to be on the battlefield for long time to come. There is nothing that is on the horizon that will replace it. And all guns in this caliber will dictate production of this cartridge in the future.
In reality reloading is the last resort, when no ammo available anywhere. X54 is best with steel cases as they are cheaper and can handle higher pressures. In North America this caliber is odd ball as it is rimmed and its dimensions fall in weird metric speck, sometimes confused with 7.62 Soviet caliber.
In any case x54r is going to be on the battlefield for long time to come. There is nothing that is on the horizon that will replace it. And all guns in this caliber will dictate production of this cartridge in the future.
That is 40 cents a shot. Hard to buy reloading bullets at that price, if trying to load complete rounds.
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The 30-06 and 308 will disappear before the 7.62x54r. Still an standard Russian military round and used by millions world wide. Might not be cheap mil surplus but will certainly be available. There are may manufacturers making this round today. And as has been said there is always reloading.
I have found a distinct difference in the Russian surplus copper steel jacketed ammo and the Peoples Republic of China of the same style. For some reason the recoil on my Chinese is lets just say "brutally unpleasant" with my M38 and for some reason feels as though it is loaded much hotter than the Russian 7.62x54R . If your going to shoot the PRC wear a sweater lol.... I have never wimped out of shooting a rifle due to recoil but 10rds was enough for me from the little M38 rifle that thinks its a 12ga
could be the size of the bullet on top though without breaking them down the dimensions are similar. they need to stop shooting up the stuff in Syria and offload it over here with peace talks.
could be the size of the bullet on top though without breaking them down the dimensions are similar. they need to stop shooting up the stuff in Syria and offload it over here with peace talks.
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The Barnaul steel case FMJ is 20 bucks a box roughly most places I've seen. A dollar a round isn't too too bad and it's non-corrosive
