700 loaded casings are full of crap !! how to clean???

Crazy Cory said:
I didn't mean to suggest the cases the reloader is using are brand new. I meant to say, I'm meeting with him today. He'll be taking back the ammunition which is contaminated.
And providing me with freshly reloaded cases that have not been exposed to that polish. Yes I will be giving them a very good inspection. All will have powders, casings, primers & projectiles inspected before trying them at the range.
And I do believe had the other rds not been exposed to this polish. They would have worked correctly.
I have held back on naming him/the company as this may be a one off mistake. And I believe everyone should get the chance to make good on a mistake. Which he seems willing to do. No it is not Wolf, Centaure, Western Metal etc.
He advertises for reloaded rounds only. He has no other products.
I'll let you know soon about the quality of the replacement ammo he provides.
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Is he licensed? Does he have a business or is he just some guy?

Considering the lack of quality from the first loads (eg inconsistent seating depth, powder charges) why would you want anything other than a full refund?

The only thing I'd buy from this guy is empty brass cases...
 
Crazy Cory said:
After cleaning. They were all reloaded with NEW components.
Yes .38 special
OAL 1.444
CFE Pistol 5.4 gr
campro 125gr projectiles
Primers are CCI small pistol #500
This load works well in other .38 spl cases I have,from a new box which I fired off.
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I didn't mean to question your reloading prowess but without that type of information it's really hard to diagnose a potential ammo problem. Although that's the minimum charge your load seems valid.

I'm glad you were able to work something out, hopefully it's smooth sailing from here.
 
Suther said:
Is he licensed? Does he have a business or is he just some guy?

Considering the lack of quality from the first loads (eg inconsistent seating depth, powder charges) why would you want anything other than a full refund?

The only thing I'd buy from this guy is empty brass cases...
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A simple refund is all I would be interested in. If he is not licensed and the OP does not report him he is complicit in any future issues other victims may have. I am not eager to rat anyone out over simple mistakes but there is a large degree of incompetence here and given the energies involved in firearms someone could end up seriously hurt.
 
So I gave him the contaminated rds. And he replaced them with other reloads.
I checked them as best I could. All were seated properly, Though strongly crimped. They is no slippery polish on them.
So I take them home. Today I pull a random .38 special from the batch. Open it up. 15.5 GRAINS !!!!!! a TRIPLE load. WTF? (of what appears to be CFE Pistol)
I hate to think of the outcome if I had not checked and fired this from a .38 spl revolver.


This guy is going to hurt someone !!!!!!!
I don't care if it's only 1 badly over charged rd in 700. it only takes one like this to cause massive injury.
I was going to take a friends young daughter to the range today. The thought of what could have happened to her today had I not checked that 1 rd. *chills*

He calls himself Custom Hand loader. Out of Sherwood park, AB. http://www.customhandloader.ca
I would suggest not using him. (unless you want to make a youtube video of a firearm exploding)
(these will all be broken down for components only)
 
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He may be a licensed business, but I really don’t think he’s a licensed ammunition company. I jet recently been through becoming a federally licensed firearms business and know what controls are involved.

With QC like he does, I can see a lawsuit happening very soon.
 
madcow said:
He may be a licensed business, but I really don’t think he’s a licensed ammunition company. I jet recently been through becoming a federally licensed firearms business and know what controls are involved.

With QC like he does, I can see a lawsuit happening very soon.
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As I said earlier, I was told by someone who would definitely know that each load offered for sale must be submitted and approved before it can be sold. This guy needs a wake up call. I suggest the OP share his experience with NRCan.
 
Did you pull down any other rounds yet? It would be interesting to see if there was a bunch of double charged cases, or if you were just very lucky to pick out 1 of 700 that was double charged. Good thing you checked & found a bad one before trying them.
Did the company provide the load data for the ammo what powder & charge weight they were supposed to be?
 
300_savage said:
Did you pull down any other rounds yet? It would be interesting to see if there was a bunch of double charged cases, or if you were just very lucky to pick out 1 of 700 that was double charged. Good thing you checked & found a bad one before trying them.
Did the company provide the load data for the ammo what powder & charge weight they were supposed to be?
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I've pulled apart 200 of the .38 spl rds.
All charged to 15.5 grains.

I then pulled a few of the .357mag. And they are charged to 20 grains.
I emailed him asking which powder he used.
His response was. " this is a faster burning powder, don't seat the bullets any further down"

I've been hunting and hunting and hunting for which powder this could be. It's very small, flat grey circles. Maybe 1mm in diameter or smaller.
 
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In a 357 with 125gr bullet
H4227 is 18.9gr to 21gr
H110/296 is 22gr to 23gr
Lil'gun can break 20gr as well

And a 38 the most i can find for a max load is 8.7 of imr blue.

So yeah if bet they are waaaay over charged
 
I propose a new rule. Reloaders can only sell boxes of 49 from now on, and must include the empty 50th case that they test fired from each box. Also, they’re not allowed to wipe the blood off.
 
My condolences to the original poster, I went through the same problems back in 1986 with .30-06 I bought off a licensed reloader in the Lower Mainland at the time. It ended well as I got a friend who was a experienced reloader teach me how to reload. I've never looked back.
 
Some people pay $360+ for courses to learn things....at least you got some materials with this lesson....tear em all down and reload them yourself.

Essentially when it comes to risking blowing up your hands or face load em yourself or buy commercial companies that have insurance.
 
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