700 loaded casings are full of crap !! how to clean???

Won’t use other people’s reloads or reload for anyone. I will teach a person to reload and allow them to use my equipment with me present.
 
... So I opened 25 or so. Replaced his powder with CFE Pistol 5.4 grains.
Again. High and low power shots and some squibs. Shooting bench covered in half burnt powder. :mad: F&%K IT !!
I open 80 rds. dumpt the powders, pull the primers, run the casings through the ultrasound 6 times on hot. reload them. Low power and 50% squibs.
And half burnt powder all over the bench !!!

I agree with those who said this doesn't make sense, and you need to clarify some things.

You disassembled 80 rounds, and thoroughly cleaned the cases. Then reloaded them with what? The original components, or new primers, powder and bullets from your own inventory?
 
First thing I noticed was the .38 projectiles were only pushed into the depth for .357mag. I then had to press all 400 .38 special rds to the correct over all length

That is not a good idea at all. Your lucky you didnt blow up. He easly could have been using 38 cases as 357 cases. Your lucky it was a light load. Other wise seating a bullet .100" deeper in a small case is a bad idea without knowing the load.

Lucky for you for they were probably light 357 loads in 38 spl cases but setup for use in a 357 lever action rifle to feed properly.
 
Something just isn't adding up, you fired his loads then cleaned the cases, reloaded them and you still have some squibs, those cases should have no contamination after you cleaned them. I'd trow them in some gasoline for a few minutes then dry and clean again preferable with a vibratory polisher.
Definitely unload all the rest of the remaining rounds, detonate the primers, use the powder for fertilizer and recycle the bullets.



Something doesn't sound right, please provide more information on YOUR reloads:

Calibre = .38 Special?
OAL = ?
Charge = CFE Pistol 5.4gr
Bullet construction and weight = ?
Primer manufacturer and type = ?

Also, I've never owned a Chiappa, so take this with a grain of salt, but could it be a gun problem? Have you tried the ammo in another revolver?
After cleaning. They were all reloaded with NEW components.
Yes .38 special
OAL 1.444
CFE Pistol 5.4 gr
campro 125gr projectiles
Primers are CCI small pistol #500
This load works well in other .38 spl cases I have,from a new box which I fired off.


Even after cleaning. These cases still feel oily, almost slimy. If you touch one of the cases then touch any other case not from this batch. you can transfer the lube/polish to it.
It just won't go away. I think my only option will be finding a solvent which works


EDIT:
I have finally gotten a response from him.
He says he had just bought a new polish to try out.
He'll be taking back the old rds and providing me with new ones tomorrow. At the worst, I'll have 700 clean cases. Will keep you updated
 
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That’s incredible..... sorry OP. Obviously the loader is a hack, should be avoided at all cost, it should advertise that he be avoided, he is just asking for a civil suit.
 
It would be helpful to others to know what kind of polish that he used, it's doubtful that it is meant for use with ammunition.

I wouldn't take another loaded round from this guy, have him send you the brass, bullets and powder disassembled and do it yourself.
 
Buying reloaded ammo from some guy you dont know was an error in judgement.

Being stupid usually comes with a cost and if we're lucky it's
just $.
 
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This doesn't make sense either, How would a "by itself" rimmed cartridge headspace without the moon clip if it has enough room for the additional moon clip between recoil plate & cylinder.

Cylinders can be cut for moon clips. I am not familiar with the Rhino so I assume it comes that way..?
 
Buying reloaded ammo from some guy you dont know was an error in judgement.

Being stupid usually comes with a cost and if we're lucky it's
just $.

I can't say I know any of the key people at Wolf, Centaure, Western Metal, et cetera. Or the folks at Winchester, Federal or Remington, for that matter. I still buy their ammo, and I don't think it's fair to call me stupid for doing so. You kind of have to assume that being part of a regulated industry counts for something.
 
I can't say I know any of the key people at Wolf, Centaure, Western Metal, et cetera. Or the folks at Winchester, Federal or Remington, for that matter. I still buy their ammo, and I don't think it's fair to call me stupid for doing so. You kind of have to assume that being part of a regulated industry counts for something.
I didn't see the part where OP bought from a licensed commercial reloader. I thought he was buying from Joe he met on the interne and I apologise to OP - it's only stupid if he goes back for more.

Reloader tellsthe cases are new, and the contamination comes from a new polish he's just trying out - nobody polishes new brass. The only question is whether reloader is lying or incompetent. Seems obvious that story is BS unless there is more to it.

Commercial reloader" isn't necessarily interchangeable with "competent reloader".

OP should ask what polish was used to make this powder go screwy like that. Answer would be interesting.
 
I didn't see the part where OP bought from a licensed commercial reloader. I thought he was buying from Joe he met on the interne and I apologise to OP - it's only stupid if he goes back for more.

Reloader tellsthe cases are new, and the contamination comes from a new polish he's just trying out - nobody polishes new brass. The only question is whether reloader is lying or incompetent. Seems obvious that story is BS unless there is more to it.

Commercial reloader" isn't necessarily interchangeable with "competent reloader".

OP should ask what polish was used to make this powder go screwy like that. Answer would be interesting.

I didn't mean to suggest the cases the reloader is using are brand new. I meant to say, I'm meeting with him today. He'll be taking back the ammunition which is contaminated.
And providing me with freshly reloaded cases that have not been exposed to that polish. Yes I will be giving them a very good inspection. All will have powders, casings, primers & projectiles inspected before trying them at the range.
And I do believe had the other rds not been exposed to this polish. They would have worked correctly.
I have held back on naming him/the company as this may be a one off mistake. And I believe everyone should get the chance to make good on a mistake. Which he seems willing to do. No it is not Wolf, Centaure, Western Metal etc.
He advertises for reloaded rounds only. He has no other products.
I'll let you know soon about the quality of the replacement ammo he provides.
 
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