7mm-08
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I actually found your comments here very curious for the simple fact that you recommended one polished turd over the other. FYI, the Steevens has had basically similar complaints you are condemning the 770 for.
Face it, no entry level rifle of ANY manufacturer is going to make everyone happy, Savage and Remington included.
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youre comparing a Stevens 200 to a 770?
there are no 'similar complaints' with the Stevens. they are not even remotely alike other than their price. i dont think ive ever heard a good thing about the 710/770.
for all intents and purposes a Stevens 200 is the same as a factory Savage but lacking the accutrigger and with the older mold stocks. a Remington 770 is a cheapified disposable POS that shares nothing in common with the 700 despite its clever nomenclature and marketing to make the average buyer think its part of the 700 family.
show me the plastic parts on a Stevens. there arent any.
wheres the press-fit barrel? the plastic action sleeve? show me one thats inaccurate. show me a Stevens that doesnt take Savage aftermarket parts, triggers, stocks, etc.
the Stevens is certainly an entry level gun and many people prefer something better, or different... but lumping them in with the 710/770 is absurd. as far as entry level guns go the Stevens 200 is an excellent choice while the 710/770 is one of the worst you could make.
and for the OP: you dont need to ask for your deposit back. most reasonable gun store owners would have no problem putting the deposit towards something like a Remington 700 SPS, especially seeing as the SPS is a bit more expensive.
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youre comparing a Stevens 200 to a 770?
there are no 'similar complaints' with the Stevens. they are not even remotely alike other than their price. for all intents and purposes a Stevens 200 is the same as a factory Savage but lacking the accutrigger. a Remington 770 is a cheapified disposable POS that shares nothing in common with the 700 despite its clever nomenclature and marketing to make the average buyer think its part of the 700 family.
show me the plastic parts on a Stevens. there arent any.
wheres the press-fit barrel? the plastic action sleeve? show me one that can only shoot 3" groups out of the box. show me a Stevens that doesnt take Savage aftermarket parts, triggers, stocks, etc.
the Stevens is certainly an entry level gun and many people prefer something better, or different... but lumping them in with the 710/770 is absurd.
btw - you dont need to ask for your deposit back. most reasonable gun store owners would have no problem putting the deposit towards something like a Remington 700 SPS, especially seeing as the SPS is a bit more expensive.
Hmm...I'll take it you've never heard of the famous Savage/Steevens tupperware stock (other manufacturers have similar problems)? Plastic parts on a Steevens? Don't they use a plastic trigger guard? How about the spring follower, is that not plastic or are they metal now? They (Savages) certainly were at one time.
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ah, because synthetic stocks are unique to savage/stevens and the 710/770?
the savage synthetic stock is better than most of them - flexible forend and all - because of the pillar bedding. its certainly no worse. plastic is plastic.most factory plastic stocks are equally crap (were talking plastic here like the remmy SPS - not FRN or fibreglass premium stocks).
i was referring to the actual action itself. im looking at my bud's stevens right now and there are no plastic parts. triggerguard and follower are metal.
No, I said as much. They're all bad - some more than others.
On most of the older Savages you definitely have plastic parts in these areas. Wasn't aware they'd changed them. So, they now use the wonderful pot metal that everyone else has been using for years? Truly remarkable!
I have two 7mm-08's.A Remington model 7 and a Browning micro hunter. Although I don't reload the factory loads have done a great job on whitetail,and hope to use it for elk this year.
There are alot of better rifles out there than the 770.The Stevens,Browning,remington model 7 and sps to name a few.
Don't jump at the 770 too quick you may regret it down the road,a rifle could and should last you a lifetime depending how much shooting you do.Spend the little extra now and avoid picking up a piece of junk.
There are alot of better rifles out there than the 770.The Stevens,Browning,remington model 7 and sps to name a few.
Don't jump at the 770 too quick you may regret it down the road,a rifle could and should last you a lifetime depending how much shooting you do.Spend the little extra now and avoid picking up a piece of junk.
2bad4U...... R U mental????? I cant possibly believe you have even held a Remmy 710/770 and a stevens in your hands or been in the same room as one, because you are actually making me dizzy with your comments.
The remmy 770/710 is THE WORST MADE GUN ON THE MARKET TODAY
It is not upgradable and totally sullies the remington name, kind of like when someone gets too drunk one night, sleeps with a real hog, and your friend happens to see you leave with her,.......
anyhow, your lovelife isn't on trial here, its the fact you are actually picking up for a remmy over the stevens. Its not even close. Go Cart racing a Corvette. Betty Boop vs Marilyn Monroe. Get my drift. Holy Crap Batman, Why are we even discussing this. You must either go to school on the little bus or are a complete SH*T disturber. Which is it?
The remmy 770/710 is THE WORST MADE GUN ON THE MARKET TODAY
It is not upgradable and totally sullies the remington name, kind of like when someone gets too drunk one night, sleeps with a real hog, and your friend happens to see you leave with her,.......
anyhow, your lovelife isn't on trial here, its the fact you are actually picking up for a remmy over the stevens. Its not even close. Go Cart racing a Corvette. Betty Boop vs Marilyn Monroe. Get my drift. Holy Crap Batman, Why are we even discussing this. You must either go to school on the little bus or are a complete SH*T disturber. Which is it?
Where did you read that I was selecting one over the other? Oh, I get it. You didn't - you just assumed you did. My statement was quite neutral. Perhaps, if you had actually read what I wrote, you'd see that.
FYI, that hog?...She was yo' mamma!...
I use a 6.5x55 on all of those creatures. The 7-08 has more energy because it has heavier bullets available. Not trying to hijack here, just giveing you a comparison.
That 7-08 will kill any animal cleanly and quickly in north america, as long as you do your part and hit it properly. To do this you will need to shoot it a lot. I find I need to shoot about 40-50 rounds in practise per month at various ranges, to stay proficient. Maybe you can get by with less or maybe you need more. It also sounds like you're going to only be shooting one centerfire. That's a good thing in the long run. Not a lot of trajectory confusion that way. bearhunter
That 7-08 will kill any animal cleanly and quickly in north america, as long as you do your part and hit it properly. To do this you will need to shoot it a lot. I find I need to shoot about 40-50 rounds in practise per month at various ranges, to stay proficient. Maybe you can get by with less or maybe you need more. It also sounds like you're going to only be shooting one centerfire. That's a good thing in the long run. Not a lot of trajectory confusion that way. bearhunter
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Buy the 770 if you are so inclined. However dont put up a post in 3 months telling us how you wished you would have saved up and bought something better. I will be the first to say, "I told you so."
I have 2 seven oh 8's. One in a stevens model 200 and one in a BLR Lightning. The stevens has not let me down. It is not pretty, I will give you that. However, you simply cannot compare the 710/ 770 to the stevens model200.
In terms of relaibility between the two, the stevens gets the nod. 710/770 has many uses. Boat paddle and boat anchor come to mind....
I have 2 seven oh 8's. One in a stevens model 200 and one in a BLR Lightning. The stevens has not let me down. It is not pretty, I will give you that. However, you simply cannot compare the 710/ 770 to the stevens model200.
In terms of relaibility between the two, the stevens gets the nod. 710/770 has many uses. Boat paddle and boat anchor come to mind....
2BAD4U : I did re-read your original message, and you are still wrong. I am not saying that the stevens is a bench rest quality rifle. But you are both saying they are bottom of the barrel rifles, and MANY here are saying that only the remington is. The stock is low quality on both. But the comparisons end there. The business end of the stevens is head and shoulders ahead of the remington. The savage uses a nut to attach the barrel to the action and this assures perfect chamber headspace each and every time, The remington presses the barrel into the action with varied results.
The savage(stevens) is a time tested design with thousands of followers because of the out of the box consistency and accuracy and value. Can you say the same for the Remmy?
I have yet to hear " The stevens have basically the same complaints as the Remy I am condemning". Where exactly did you hear these stevens complaints?
Anyhow, I am done arguing a completely moot point, I just wanted to save this guy from buying a piece of crap that he will be stuck with in a few months.
The savage(stevens) is a time tested design with thousands of followers because of the out of the box consistency and accuracy and value. Can you say the same for the Remmy?
I have yet to hear " The stevens have basically the same complaints as the Remy I am condemning". Where exactly did you hear these stevens complaints?
Anyhow, I am done arguing a completely moot point, I just wanted to save this guy from buying a piece of crap that he will be stuck with in a few months.
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Here's my wife's 7mm-08, a Stevens 200 with less than ten dollars worth of Krylon and silver webbing.
Bolt doesn't bind, handle stays on, and it shoots 140 partitions and 160 Accubonds into an inch. Great hunting rifle, weighs right at 7 1/2 pounds with scope and magazine full of ammo.
Ted
Bolt doesn't bind, handle stays on, and it shoots 140 partitions and 160 Accubonds into an inch. Great hunting rifle, weighs right at 7 1/2 pounds with scope and magazine full of ammo.
Ted
Here's my wife's 7mm-08, a Stevens 200 with less than ten dollars worth of Krylon and silver webbing.
Bolt doesn't bind, handle stays on, and it shoots 140 partitions and 160 Accubonds into an inch. Great hunting rifle, weighs right at 7 1/2 pounds with scope and magazine full of ammo.
Ted
Nice paint job!
Providing it is utterly reliable under all conditions, I don't think you'd find many people to disagree with you.
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Get off it you two. The 710/770 is completely acceptable as an entry level rifle for the person of limited funds that will only use one rifle. It may not be a tack driver, but it is light, reliable and plenty accurate enough for hunting. I have been impressed by several of them at the range and though they may not be my first choice, they will do the job.
I believe the question here was about the adeqacey of the 7-08.
bearhunter
I believe the question here was about the adeqacey of the 7-08.
bearhunter
manbearpig
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because many people set their sights above 'acceptable' and try to get the best value for their money.
as far as value, or 'investment' goes, the 770 is just about the worst thing you can do with your money. you are buying a gun that was engineered from the ground up to keep production and materials cost at the absolute minimum... whereas with other entry level guns you generally get the same rifle as their high-end versions, but with a couple sacrifices on metal finish and the stock.
as far as value, or 'investment' goes, the 770 is just about the worst thing you can do with your money. you are buying a gun that was engineered from the ground up to keep production and materials cost at the absolute minimum... whereas with other entry level guns you generally get the same rifle as their high-end versions, but with a couple sacrifices on metal finish and the stock.
