7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag - Elk/Moose

More is always more. It’s kind of like overtime on your pay check though, you need to consider how much more is worth the trade offs. I like both cartridges and sort them by which rifle I feel like carrying on a given day.
 
From general messaging it seems like both the 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag will both work.
If I am fine with the recoil the 300 will offer a little more smack down range but I would not be disappointed in the 7mm.

If shots are within 600 is there a noticeable difference?
Let’s take out the shooter from this question and just look at cartridge.

At what range does one cartridge really start to outperform the other in a meaningful way?
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the typical 7mm 175gr factory load will be very, very close to the typical 300WM 180gr load and may even outperform it past say 200 yards.

The Handloader with a Chronograph will get more out of the 300 and of course with heavier bullets.
 
Bob Hagel who hunted most of his life with a 7 mm Magnum, using a 175 Nosler Partition at 3150 fps wrote in on of his books that nothing penetrates more than that bullet, but he would not use it on Brown bears. He recommended the 300 WM for the brownies. But again, for moose and elk, both are excellent.
 
I have a friend who hunts Africa annually doing a lot of culling some years. He says the wound channel the 175gr Partition leaves is almost without peer
 
I have a friend that is tired of Nosler jacking up their bullet prices. He says at nearly 2$ a pill they should be already loaded.
 
If you're considering the 300 you may as well go all the way and grab a 338WM, especially if you already own a 308 or 30.06 which are ballistically closer to the two you are considering.
 
How do we quantify that Doug?

Fair question and I don’t know exactly.

I think people would have to answer based on experience in the field or if we got into the numbers it would involve comparing wind drift, energy and drop but figuring out at what point does it actually make a difference (ie at what distance does a 10mph wind cause enough error in one setup to push it out of the vitals while the other stays in)

Trying to not go down the rabbit hole on this one.
I’m not in the market to buy either caliber right now I’m just more so curious.

At the end of the day I think a 300 will do anything I’d want it to.
The question is will the 7mm do it as well with less recoil and the be if it’s that come with less recoil?
 
I've shot dozens of rifles over the years while working at a local sporting goods store. There is so much that plays into the perceived recoil it's hard to give you a definitive answer on a forum. Objectively, the cartridge that produces more energy will have more energy to be tamed. Rifle weight will help keep the felt recoil down. Then, subjectively, the stock material, design, etc. all play into the equation. One of the most unpleasant rifles in this category to shoot was a 30-06 Savage Axis with the synthetic stock and pre-installed scope. It was so light and the stock and buttpad design was poor IMO. A x-bolt in 300 WM was more comfortable to shoot, and not too much heavier!

Once you get into the 7mm Rem mag, 30-06, 300WSM/WM territory IMO it's a wash. Find a rifle that fits you well and is comfortable to shoot. The moose/elk/bear won't know the difference and neither will your shoulder. Especially when you're in a hunting scenario. I hunt with a 300WSM and when I shot my moose with 180gr Barnes I don't even remember feeling recoil and I'm 170lbs.

As an aside, for anyone who's recoil sensitive a decent rifle chambered in 7mm-08 is an absolute dream.
 
My choice of the two is , elk/moose
7RM
300 WSM/ skip the 300 WM , winchester owns both,
If in thick bush country and grizz ,
well bigger maybe better ?
can't go wrong here
 
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I've taken moose with both cartridges, I can't really say if one has an advantage over the other.

Both work just fine, I'd say use which ever you feel the most comfortable with... both are great choices :)
 
That’s really the bottom line to killing anything. Hit it right it dies. Regardless of recoil, cartridge, bc, wound channel and all the rest of these mostly irrelevant details.
 
That’s really the bottom line to killing anything. Hit it right it dies. Regardless of recoil, cartridge, bc, wound channel and all the rest of these mostly irrelevant details.

100 percent agree. Can't really go wrong with today's standard and magnum cartridges if it can be shot accurately with decent bullets.
 
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