Well less porting means less effect. Plus they would be directly above your hand and inches from your face. Chrony numbers out of an 8.5 are not that bad at all but I wouldn't want to sacrifice any more. They're no louder than any other defender length shotgun and recoil is the same as anything else. My 8.5 actually had less felt recoil than a 20" Maverick 88. Some of that is due to the better fit with the magpul SGA and its recoil pad. Muzzle flash with lighter slug and buck loads is pretty tame. Rem reduced recoil 1 oz slugs chrony at 950 fps for the 8.5 and 1150 fps out of an 18.5" express tactical. Still very lethal at close range with a higher impact velocity than most slugs have at 75 yds. And a slug at 75 yds is rather effective. Sorry for rambling, I'm sure somebody will find this info as interesting as I do.