870 vrs 500

Both great shotguns but the safety position on the mossberg's always drives me towards the 870 because I like to either have stock with pistol grip functionality and adjustable LOP
 
I ended up getting both, you can get one first, but you'll always wonder what the other would be like. Since they're both so affordable, you can have both for about $650-700 and have plenty of room to customize and buy ammo.

I prefer the Mossberg for hunting and clays, but Remington for serious work.


If hunting and clays are accounted for what is 'serious work'...?
 
Anything that isn't hunting or clays. Come on here, 'serious work' is just another category to buy a firearm to fill that category. haha! No, but the remington wears the shorter 18.5'' barrel so it's more of a gun that one can travel with, store easily, and carry on hikes etc.
 
There's a very good reason the Remington 870 ("Express" models not included) is the shotgun by which all others are judged!

The best bang for your buck is an older 870 with a 2 3/4" chamber. You'll have no problem finding one for $200-$250...and most of them have never shot more than a couple hundreds rounds.
 
I have an older 870 I got from my dad. It runs fine, only broke a firing pin once in it. It has seen many rounds go through it.

Would love a 12inch barrel for it, guess I gotta buy a Grizzly for that though.

Putting that Grizz barrel on it would make it restricted???
 
i dont own a 500 but i bought a 870 express (was my first shotty at the time) 3 years ago for hunting duck n goose. I had problems with the shell fully ejecting when the gun was aimed upward. had a buddy with the same problem his smith said is the poor quility extractor spring that in the new cheaper 870s. a fairly easy fix i guess. also it had some troubles feeding some amunition. Having said that i still own it and it does have its uses here and there makes a good back up.
 
i dont believe the aluminum Mossberg receiver is any 'weaker' than the steel 870 receiver. ive never heard of a Mossberg receiver failing or breaking due to its aluminum construction. that said, i prefer having an all steel shotgun for the simple fact that its far better suited for customizations like refinishing (of any kind) and drill/tapping for rails and ghost ring sights.


870 accessories, components, take-off stocks and barrels are about 1000x as easy to find on the EE compared to Mossberg.
most aftermarket accessories are designed for the 870, and then adapted to the Mossberg. this means youll often have sh*ttier fit, wierd gaps between the triggerguard and pistol grip, etc on the Mossberg version.
the 870 is a far more customizable shotgun that is supported by just about every aftermarket accessory on the planet. its 'the standard'.
 
I'm a Remington 870 fan myself, mine's been modified a fair bit with new spring, follower, short barrel, it's pretty much the bolt and reciever that are actually original to the gun..

The only problem I've ever had with it, is when I was skeet shooting in the fall, I may or may not have put a shell in backwards, but man, I have never had a gun jam up that tight in my life. But it was most likely operator error..

On that note, that same day, after shooting I'd unload it, and drop it on the ground, still looks just as good as it did when I bought it, no rust, action is nice and broken in.. I've probably got around 1000 rounds through it, which with the finish on the Express, that's about what it takes to break it in...

But, If I buy another shotgun, it's going to be a 590 Mariner, just to get something different.
 
I bought my 870 2 years ago, I have the 870 with the 2 mag ext and 18.5" barrel and have shot endless 3 gun matches with it. This gun has shot everything from slugs, to # 4, 6,7,8,9. Must have 50+ slugs and 3000 rds of shot (#4,6,7,8,9). So far the worst thing to happen was cleaning out all the lead left over in the barrel :)

Hope that gives you an better idea
 
...I may or may not have put a shell in backwards, but man, I have never had a gun jam up that tight in my life. But it was most likely operator error..

On that note, that same day, after shooting I'd unload it, and drop it on the ground...

So in one day you loaded a shell backwards, jamming it like never before, and then dropped it on the ground? Sheesh, what club do you belong to and when do you shoot there cause I want to know where and when not to go! cou:
 
Alot of hate for the 'Express' 870s out there. What exactly are the differences between them and the others like the wingmaster and police?

The Express models have a plastic trigger guard, internal parts are rougher, a bead blasted finish, laminated hardwood or plastic butt stock/forend (police models have the higher quality SpeedFeed furniture or plain walnut), chamber tolerances aren't as tight and the barrels aren't always threaded straight. The Express models are by no means bad guns however they are far from being the best!
 
This is only my opinion.

Both guns are great. Both have there pros and cons as listed by many of the above posters. Determine what the gun will be used for, do your own research and most of all go to a dealer and handle each one physically in your hands.

Assuming pricing, quality, maintenance and aftermarket are somewhat similar this is the ultimate deciding factor if two guns are both great but can only have one of them for the time being.

Regards
 
Not to get off topic but I thought this thread was going to turn into something I seen in another thread on another unnamed shotgun forum website. See below for some funny!

This thread is just following the typical pattern around here. It goes something like this:

OP: "x" vs. "y"? Can anyone offer some advice or insight as to why I might choose one over the other?

1st responder: Why do you need product “x” or "y"? Product “z” is superior in every way.

2nd responder: Are you kidding? Product “z” is unproven technology. According to my extensive research of unpublished blogs and YouTube videos, your an idiot if you use either of those products.

1st responder: Aha! You used “your” when you should have used “you’re” therefore your entire perspective and therefore post is invalid!

3rd responder: Is this for clays or upland bird hunting? Home defense or mall cop offense? Are you right handed or left handed? What loads will you be shooting? Accessories or not? Indians or cowboys? Uphill or downhill? Upwind of a fart or downwind? For God’s sakes man, I need more info!

4th responder: I’ve been shooting for 45 years and the 20 GA is superior in every way to the 12 GA. "x, y, and z" are all crap!

5th responder: Anyone shooting a Remington isn’t a serious shotgunner anyway.

OP: So does anyone know if which is better? "x" or "y”?
 
Not to get off topic but I thought this thread was going to turn into something I seen in another thread on another unnamed shotgun forum website. See below for some funny!

This thread is just following the typical pattern around here. It goes something like this:

OP: "x" vs. "y"? Can anyone offer some advice or insight as to why I might choose one over the other?

1st responder: Why do you need product “x” or "y"? Product “z” is superior in every way.

2nd responder: Are you kidding? Product “z” is unproven technology. According to my extensive research of unpublished blogs and YouTube videos, your an idiot if you use either of those products.

1st responder: Aha! You used “your” when you should have used “you’re” therefore your entire perspective and therefore post is invalid!

3rd responder: Is this for clays or upland bird hunting? Home defense or mall cop offense? Are you right handed or left handed? What loads will you be shooting? Accessories or not? Indians or cowboys? Uphill or downhill? Upwind of a fart or downwind? For God’s sakes man, I need more info!

4th responder: I’ve been shooting for 45 years and the 20 GA is superior in every way to the 12 GA. "x, y, and z" are all crap!

5th responder: Anyone shooting a Remington isn’t a serious shotgunner anyway.

OP: So does anyone know if which is better? "x" or "y”?


Laugh2 too funny, and very true!
 
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