I ended up getting both, you can get one first, but you'll always wonder what the other would be like. Since they're both so affordable, you can have both for about $650-700 and have plenty of room to customize and buy ammo.
I prefer the Mossberg for hunting and clays, but Remington for serious work.
...I may or may not have put a shell in backwards, but man, I have never had a gun jam up that tight in my life. But it was most likely operator error..
On that note, that same day, after shooting I'd unload it, and drop it on the ground...

Alot of hate for the 'Express' 870s out there. What exactly are the differences between them and the others like the wingmaster and police?
Not to get off topic but I thought this thread was going to turn into something I seen in another thread on another unnamed shotgun forum website. See below for some funny!
This thread is just following the typical pattern around here. It goes something like this:
OP: "x" vs. "y"? Can anyone offer some advice or insight as to why I might choose one over the other?
1st responder: Why do you need product “x” or "y"? Product “z” is superior in every way.
2nd responder: Are you kidding? Product “z” is unproven technology. According to my extensive research of unpublished blogs and YouTube videos, your an idiot if you use either of those products.
1st responder: Aha! You used “your” when you should have used “you’re” therefore your entire perspective and therefore post is invalid!
3rd responder: Is this for clays or upland bird hunting? Home defense or mall cop offense? Are you right handed or left handed? What loads will you be shooting? Accessories or not? Indians or cowboys? Uphill or downhill? Upwind of a fart or downwind? For God’s sakes man, I need more info!
4th responder: I’ve been shooting for 45 years and the 20 GA is superior in every way to the 12 GA. "x, y, and z" are all crap!
5th responder: Anyone shooting a Remington isn’t a serious shotgunner anyway.
OP: So does anyone know if which is better? "x" or "y”?
too funny, and very true!



























