9-22 mags arrived

The AA9-22 A2 is the inner mag, no sleeve. The AA9-22 A1 is the mag complete with sleeve. We had to order the AA9-A2 because they didnt have any sleeves at the time, we finally got the sleeves. That why we ship in separate bags. All the new mags we have are Gen 3, thats why the long wait for them.
 
Has anyone had any luck filing down that funny little bump on the 9-22 mags?
I am hoping for a pic/report on that.

I just leave my Nomad at home these days, because the failures every 5-10 shots is too depressing.
 
Earlier in the thread - and on AR15DOTcom, there is some discussion of a funny little bump in the forward part of the feed lip - a bump that does not (apparently) exist on other 10/22 mags such as the Butler Creek. One poster on ARCOM spoke of filing it down with a few swipes of a rat tail, and having no more problems with the round jamming rather than going into the chamber.
 
Here is the thread I am referring to, and there is a couple pics at the bottom, but then the thread ends with no further discussion.

I am very frustrated, as I LOVE my Nomad kit (formerly aka marauder), and it works flawlessly with the 10-round rotary mag, although it has to be pried out gently with a screwdriver, lol...

But BOTH of my aa9-22's simple will not work properly. I have slightly better luck without the sleeve, but I have yet to fire all 25, even slowly, without at least one jam. That includes Stingers, Blazers, you name it...

Everyone loves my rifle at the range, until it starts to fail, and then they drift smugly back to their 715t's, lol...

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=11&t=368134

Just waitin' on a fix that has a general consensus before putting more money into this thing.

Thank heaven for my Henry Frontier!
 
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I bought a set of mags from Dave at hical awhile ago, and thought I would chime in. They are probably gen 1 or gen 2.

At first i was having the same problems as most of ya all in here. I contacted Dave and got the same great service that everyone has experienced with him, and got a different set of feed lips AS WELL as Dave sent me a mag for free since he was having a special price on 3 mags at the time, and when I bought my mags I only bought two. The guy and his service are just second to none, I cant say it enough how I was flabergasted with his service.

Anyways I started out with these mags shooting the bulk 525 federal or winchester packs (I forget which one now) and I was experiencing quite a few stove pipes, and failure to ejects. Like constant, it was frustrating. I switch ammo to some remington something or another high velocity and that was even worse. I bought a bulk pack of cci blazers (they used to come in cases each shell in a slot, not just thrown in the bulk pack) and I dont know if it was the ammo I was using or just the fact that i had pushed enough ammo through the mags by this time, but thats when the mags started to work well. As im nearing the end of the cci blazer bulk pack 2 of the 3 mags are working flawlessly. I have two of the mags attached together and use those the most, so the third mag sits in a drawer most of the time, but last time I used it, it was working pretty well.

I went to buy some more of the same kind of cci blazers and couldnt find them at wholesale or cabelas in Saskatoon, so I bought a huge pack of cci stingers, but have yet to try them out.

Guess long story short, I was frustrated as hell with these mags at first. I do miss buying the cheap bulk packs, but it seems like cci blazers and some time shooting through the mags seemed to have make mine fairly reliable. For awhile I was ready to throw my sr-22 out and find a nice reliable cooey semi-auto, but the mags when working have sure made the gun fun to shoot again.
 
I just got one of these mags last week. I took it to the range, loaded it
And had almost half of the rounds misfeed.

When I got home I took off the slip cover and used the dremel and a flat
File to cut a small ramp/notch for the mag release to sit in and
Hopefully function a bit better ( the mag didn't feel completely seated in the mag well)

I went out with the altered mag today. It seats in securely, and I went through 100 rds with one fail to feed. HUGE improvement, although I'm not sure if filing relief notch has anything to do with it. Don't care; seems to be working properly now
 
When I got home I took off the slip cover and used the dremel and a flat
File to cut a small ramp/notch for the mag release to sit in

HUGE improvement, although I'm not sure if filing relief notch has anything to do with it. Don't care; seems to be working properly now

Can you post a picture of the area where you filed? Thanks!
 
Can someone post a PDF file on here from an email? I cant get the file on here for everyone to see how to do the feed wire adjustments.
 
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Getting an error from that link.


I'm going to try some more tests, I shimmed the mag with some black tape - no more wiggle, similar to how the factory mag fits. Got three to test:

Mag1: no mods, no sleeve.
Mag2: no sleeve, shimmed the front.
Mag3: shimmed the back, sleeve on.
 
I bought a Butler Creek mag which I am hoping will at least give me function, if a slightly silly-looking form.

Without a sleeve, I got one aa922 25 round mag dump the other day at the range - no-one was more surprised than me! Pew-pew-pew-pew...I love this thing when it works!

But after re-loading the same mag, I got failure after failure, as usual.

It must have something to do with the mag placement, I am interested in your shim results...also, the Butler Creek does not have the odd shape, the tiny "bump" on the feed lip that MAY be pushing the front end of the round too high and causing it to jam on battery, and even bend...I may end up filing that nib down a tiny bit at a time, as described on that AR-15 thread.
 
Hey guys, I had some good results with shimming the bottom back of the magazine, right above where the sleeve ends.
All I did was roll some black tape up, and then tape it in place - adjusting until there was no wiggle with the magazine. Compared to the magazine without the shim, it was night and day. No nose jam feeds, I only had one hiccup where the next bullet didnt get fed all the way in place, but a little lube in the mag should fix that. I only load them up with 20 rounds for now, but Im really happy with the results. I'll post some pictures soon. Thinking of ideas for something a little more permanent, maybe the zip tie mod, since its pretty much the same thing - reduce the mag wiggle.
 
@ Bowzy...OK, the "bottom back", right above where the sleeve ends...so it more or less tipped the mag a few millimeters 'forward" towards the muzzle?
That should be simple, but pics would be great, and muchly appreciated.

I suppose I should try experimenting with just holding it one way, then the other.

I have found why, on my JW-14, I get failures to feed - the mag is just ever so slightly pinched from side to side, and that prevents the spring from pushing the next round up to be caught. A tiny bit of sanding of the mag iws helping, but I am hestitant to take too much off...just poking away at it. This is a 25 round banana made for the Marlin M-70 (off topic) that I found fits my Norinco!

If anyone has a Norinco JW-14, by now they now how crappy the little mags are, well Marlin Model 70 mags fit, with just the tiniest bit of light sanding (of the mag). The banana mag for the M-70 looks like the one on the cover of the Norinco manual, that never seems to be included with the rifle (thanks a lot CA!)

But I would LOVE to get this Nomad working properly!! Until then, my Norinco shoots circles around it, honestly. Unless I use the original 10/22 mag...perfect!
 
@ Bowzy...OK, the "bottom back", right above where the sleeve ends...so it more or less tipped the mag a few millimeters 'forward" towards the muzzle?
That should be simple, but pics would be great, and muchly appreciated.

You can see where it has been rubbing some of the tape
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It's really just building up a few more milimetres of material here:
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Can someone post a PDF file on here from an email? I cant get the file on here for everyone to see how to do the feed wire adjustments.

I think this is what you are after. I followed the min to max wire settings as in the photo with limited to some success with 36 grain hollow points, When I changed ammo to 40 grain round nose and worked outside the min to max wire setting I had complete success. After 250 rounds with the mag loaded to max capacity not one concern. The mags I have are gen2. After today I convinced the concerns are ammo and most of all the feed wire adjustment for a type of ammo.

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@ Bowzy...cheers for that. I am going to dust off my Nomad tomorrow and see if I can't get the darn thing to work by experimenting with shimming.

Yes, I have the instructions that show the feed control spring placement. I will (again) fart with that as well, thanks for posting that as well, bjs, as a reminder.

I'd give my left nut to have this thing work properly. It's embarrassing to be out-performed by 715t and even 702 plinksters with 25 round mags....until then, my Nomad is all bark, and no bite, lol....

You would think that the manufacturer, given that you can no longer Google "Nomad" without 5,987,785 pages of failures showing up, would chime in with SOME suggestions: filing, shimming, whatever.
 
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