9.3 bullet test started. pics posted in #1

Very happy with the performance of the Woodleigh, since I have a good stash of those. The Norma Alaska did very well too, considering it's just an ordinary cup & core. Looking forward to seeing data on the 250 Woodleigh PP and Nosler Accubond.

You seem a little disappointed with the relatively low weight retention of the Partition, but the bullets are designed with a very soft front half that tends to shed when it meets much resistance, leaving the solid rear shank to penetrate. Given the Partition's reputation, I wouldn't hesitate to use it on almost anything.
 
Very happy with the performance of the Woodleigh, since I have a good stash of those. The Norma Alaska did very well too, considering it's just an ordinary cup & core. Looking forward to seeing data on the 250 Woodleigh PP and Nosler Accubond.

You seem a little disappointed with the relatively low weight retention of the Partition, but the bullets are designed with a very soft front half that tends to shed when it meets much resistance, leaving the solid rear shank to penetrate. Given the Partition's reputation, I wouldn't hesitate to use it on almost anything.

but i was hoping to see the back with more volume and weight. yes the NP is made for that but if i follow the gun-writers in this caliber we should have 85%+ not 66% but still a good bullet but in those days we are lucky to have those choice ...
 
but i was hoping to see the back with more volume and weight. yes the NP is made for that but if i follow the gun-writers in this caliber we should have 85%+ not 66% but still a good bullet but in those days we are lucky to have those choice ...

I would expect that loss Phil..... Based on the fact that you are shooting water jugs and not flesh...... Lots of resistance there!

To me, that's the awesome part of your test, you are testing these bullets against almost worst case scenario..... Very interesting....
 
I would expect that loss Phil..... Based on the fact that you are shooting water jugs and not flesh...... Lots of resistance there!

To me, that's the awesome part of your test, you are testing these bullets against almost worst case scenario..... Very interesting....

that is right a super extra stress but some are handling it some not. anyway that is just a test wont stop me to use partition but now i get a good idea about what the market is offering.
 
The Nosler partition has the fragmenting and shock effect upon entry and full penetration on thin skinned game with adequate velocity making it a "dropped in his tracks" type bullet. Thats' why I use them for hunting big game. If the petals all stay on the Barnes bullet and the mushroom all stays on the woodleigh then it may not create the "shrapnel" effect that the partition gives. There are not too many elephants in Canada so penetration is not as important as a quick clean kill and no tracking blood trails with the coleman lantern all night. The Partition is the best of both worlds but at the end of the day some guns shoot better with the barnes and accuracy is paramount when the shots get long. Just my 2 bits. Once you break 3000 FPS you can't trust those Speer hot core, Sierra game king and Hornady interlocks on one shot kills but if you are under 3000 FPS they hold together and work fine (thats' what they were made for). If you are shooting a magnum calibre then I would recommend that you buy premium bullets and you will drop what you hit simply because of bullet design which is suited to velocity.
 
I was trying to go through the 20+ pages of this thread to find the actual results of the test on my phone but for some reason I couldn't...could you guys give me a pointer...
 
Im looking forward to the speer hotcore results.

Here's a 270 gr taken out of a 63" bull moose, hide, one rib, two lungs, and another rib.



Very happy with the performance of the Woodleigh, since I have a good stash of those. The Norma Alaska did very well too, considering it's just an ordinary cup & core. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on almost anything.

See plain c&c above. :)

One of the great things about the 9.3X62 is that it works with just about any bullet you put into it, even cast 285s work. This one at 2200+ went through six jugs, and was caught in the seventh.



Ted
 
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Here's a 270 gr taken out of a 63" bull moose, hide, one rib, two lungs, and another rib.
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Ted

Thanks, I would say thats a pretty good real world endorsement for the underestimated overachieving speer.
 
Several guys I know use PRVI factory ammo, and it works great with their plain cup and core soft point bullet.

I have not heard of any issues with 9.3X62 brass other than Remington and Hornady either. The new unfired Hornady brass Phil used for the test was not only out of spec, but the case mouths were so badly burred that he could not chamber the ammo after they were loaded. Had to pull the bullets, dump the powder, chamfer the necks, then reload. Then we get to the range, and half do not fire.

All other brands of brass worked fine. Wondering now if Remington makes the Hornady brass?
Ted

Ted;

S&B makes Hornady brass, and from what I'm reading here, probably Remington too. I've used nothing but new "Hornady" brass since I started with the 9.3 X 62 in 2011. I've never had a misfire or any other problems except the burr on the end of the cases caused problems for chambering until I figured out the problem. On principle, I now de-burr the mouth of the case inside and out. I'm still using many of the original box of 50, and those have been mostly "hot" loads using RL-17. By the way, if you go to my blog I give the results from RL-17 behind the 320gr Woodleigh.

I shot a bear with the 286 Hornady in 2011 and it worked fine at close range in finishing off one that was wounded by an apprentice. MV was about 2400. The bullet hit behind the short ribs and made exit at the back of the head after taking out 3" of spine. Not pushing it, just the facts. Since then I've used both the 286 Partition and the 250 AB on bears. Both worked very well on 6-ft bears at 68 yards and 85 yards respectively at 2550 and 2715 respectively. The 286 was retrieved and held on to 211 grains; the 250 last fall was a pass-through that caused a lot of blood letting. I like the 250 AB for bears. It took out 1 rib on entry, pulverized the heart and 2 ribs on exit. I still don't know how the bear made 20 yards.

Thanks to you guys for all the work you've done and continue to do.

Bob

www.bigbores.ca
 
Bob, that must be misinformation that someone gave you.

Why would S&B, a European manufacturer, make 9.3X62 brass with a base that measures 0.467" just above the cannelure? My reformed 30-06 brass measures larger than that before fireforming. Something is amiss somewhere.

I appreciate your mention of all the work this has been. You know first hand, being the experimenter and researcher you are. Phil had done most of the legwork. I just helped with the loading and setup.

Like yourself, it took a few minutes to figure out why the loaded ammo would not chamber. The burrs did it! ;)
Ted
 
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Bob,

i just checked the boxes i have over here and both are written made in the USA.

in the past maybe Hornady got some from czech republic has you have seen on one packing slip but when we imported our hornady stuff it was already stamped made in the usa.

my rifle is picky or finicky if something is working with Lapua, Prvi or Norma brass will it be factory or reloaded but there is a big chance of misfire with reloaded hornady or Remington in factory or reloaded there is something.

thank anyway for your comment.

the bullets tested may work differently in water and in muscles but what i wanted to achieve is close call and hitting hard which is exactly what we got.
 
The Nosler partition has the fragmenting and shock effect upon entry and full penetration on thin skinned game with adequate velocity making it a "dropped in his tracks" type bullet. Thats' why I use them for hunting big game. If the petals all stay on the Barnes bullet and the mushroom all stays on the woodleigh then it may not create the "shrapnel" effect that the partition gives. There are not too many elephants in Canada so penetration is not as important as a quick clean kill and no tracking blood trails with the coleman lantern all night. The Partition is the best of both worlds but at the end of the day some guns shoot better with the barnes and accuracy is paramount when the shots get long. Just my 2 bits. Once you break 3000 FPS you can't trust those Speer hot core, Sierra game king and Hornady interlocks on one shot kills but if you are under 3000 FPS they hold together and work fine (thats' what they were made for). If you are shooting a magnum calibre then I would recommend that you buy premium bullets and you will drop what you hit simply because of bullet design which is suited to velocity.

agree with you except over here with have an animal that need a bullet that penetrate and hold together: bison.

partition can work (do not see why) but i ve seen not well placed shots with 260 grains accubond and 6 where needed and not that much was left on them.
 
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