9.3 bullet test started. pics posted in #1

double gun said:
Thanks, I would say thats a pretty good real world endorsement for the underestimated overachieving speer.
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It seems to get a bad rap that 270gr Speer. I have no doubts it is soft (most Speer hotcores are) but I used one on a Red Hartebees in 2015. The guy whose rifle it was said it was a starting load of South African S335 propellant, so pretty mild, likely around 2200fps MV. Through both shoulders at about 80m. The exit was loonie sized at most and meat damage was slight.
 
medvedqc said:
Bob,

i just checked the boxes i have over here and both are written made in the USA.

in the past maybe Hornady got some from czech republic has you have seen on one packing slip but when we imported our hornady stuff it was already stamped made in the usa.

my rifle is picky or finicky if something is working with Lapua, Prvi or Norma brass will it be factory or reloaded but there is a big chance of misfire with reloaded hornady or Remington in factory or reloaded there is something.

thank anyway for your comment.

the bullets tested may work differently in water and in muscles but what i wanted to achieve is close call and hitting hard which is exactly what we got.
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I know of at least one Zastava M/70 which, out of the box, would not fire Hornady ammo, and which had good headspace. on something like 3 or 4 times out of 10, the primers were only lightly struck and it failed to ignite. It was returned to the importer for warranty but the customer choose to replace the rifle (thinking it was in fault). And even if I seldom use commercial ammo, I personally never had problems with my M/70 (and any of the many rifles in 9.3X62) firing European made ammo of several makers.
 
yes Baribal and i should had mentionned that Tradeex offered to check that rifle even if it was purchased long time ago and offered to give money back. but as it was firing Lapua and Norma and a few Prvi i knew it was something else. the local gunsmith confirmed the go-no go.

the brass in 30-06 that Teds recipe reloaded and shot without an hassle at all.

we will keep that thread alive. thanks all for the civil discussion, love that.
 
I have used the 270 Speer HC with great success in the 9.3X62 but it was an abysmal failure at 3000 fps in my 9.3X300 WM...........It is my bullet standard in the 9.3X62 and it shoots extremely well and performs admirably at 2500 fps. In my 9.3X300 WM I have gone to a Matrix 270 gn RBT spritzer and a 286 gn Nosler Part..........

I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that Hornady is just necking up and stamping 30-06 cases for their 9.3X62 ammo...........typical Hornady junk..........

I too have made cases from '06, but did it properly by taking the case out to 40 cal using a slow tapered plug I made with lots of case lube, and then running it back down in my 9.3X62 die to just fit my chamber with a slight bump and fireforming and then trim to square the case mouth. Then I stumbled on to a bunch of factory 35 Whelen and did the same with it............then I bought 150 Graf cases properly headstamped when they were on sale at WSS a few years back..........I do believe I have a lifetime supply now..........I like the R-P 35 Whelen formed cases the best though.


Just as a funny aside here, while fireforming cases I didn't have enough 9.3 bullets and had a plethora or 357 200 gn silhouette pistol bullets, so I 1/2 necked the cases to 357 and loaded 100 up to fireform. I was out at a camping spot and having a glass of wine in the evening and just blowing off the loads when I realized that I was actually hitting things across the bay of the lake on the hillside about 200 mtrs away. So I actually started aiming at certain things and found that the loads were shooting minute of pop can. I was amazed and realized that the soft jacketed pistol bullets must be slugging up the 9 thou and engaging the rifling and sealing the bore. Just kinda a cool discovery. One could also make up some small game loads like this, with some T&E...........
 
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Baribal said:
I know of at least one Zastava M/70 which, out of the box, would not fire Hornady ammo, and which had good headspace. on something like 3 or 4 times out of 10, the primers were only lightly struck and it failed to ignite. It was returned to the importer for warranty but the customer choose to replace the rifle (thinking it was in fault). And even if I seldom use commercial ammo, I personally never had problems with my M/70 (and any of the many rifles in 9.3X62) firing European made ammo of several makers.
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That's probably the rifle that Phil has now! ;)

Ted
 
It's not the rifles, it is the brass being out of spec. We put five thicknesses of masking tape on the bottom of the case before the bolt would not close.

That's when Phil called Tradex. A visit to the local 'smith proved the headspace in the rifle correct.

Ted
 
Yes, that's what I meant by not digesting Hornady Ammo...

Easiest way to find out about the brass is to use the Hornady Lock'n'Load case headspsce comparator with more than one bushing size and compare the reading on a fired case.... might be the shoulder angle or something.
 
I hope the 231gr Norma on your list is the 232gr Oryx(the new ecostrike is listed at 230 gr and you already have the Vulcan on the list)
I use the 232 gr Oryx for everything in my 9.3x62 (deer to moose, black bear & even grizzly - never had a chance to actually shoot a grizzly but carried this ammo when out to fill my grizzly LEH tag...).
I thought this bullet with its high weight retention and bonded design is good enough for the big critters and then the higher velocity helps with shocking the smaller critters...
I shot a smallish black bear that was quartering towards me few days ago...I hit it a little bit back (impact velocity maybe about 2500fps) and the exit hole was baseball size at least(maybe closer to football size) with half the guts sticking out...
Long story short - I felt that this bullet should have provided enough shock even with a rear lung shot to drop the bear in its tracks (as I believe a frangible soft point would have)... and then the BC of the Oryx is way too low - the new Ecostrike should be much better for longer shots... now only if we can find an Ecostrike for you to test...
 
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popper said:
I hope the 231gr Norma on your list is the 232gr Oryx(the new ecostrike is listed at 230 gr and you already have the Vulcan on the list)
I use the 232 gr Oryx for everything in my 9.3x62 (deer to moose, black bear & even grizzly - never had a chance to actually shoot a grizzly but carried this ammo when out to fill my grizzly LEH tag...).
I thought this bullet with its high weight retention and bonded design is good enough for the big critters and then the higher velocity helps with shocking the smaller critters...
I shot a smallish black bear that was quartering towards me few days ago...I hit it a little bit back (impact velocity maybe about 2500fps) and the exit hole was baseball size at least(maybe closer to football size) with half the guts sticking out...
Long story short - I felt that this bullet should have provided enough shock even with a rear lung shot to drop the bear in its tracks (as I believe a frangible soft point would have)... and then the BC of the Oryx is way too low - the new Ecostrike should be much better for longer shots... now only if we can find an Ecostrike for you to test...
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sorry i do not have norma oryx in 232 grains.
BC for a 9.3x62 maybe the accubond if you can find some.

when we will test them will see how it goes.

Phil
 
medvedqc said:
20. 286gr hornady.#found in the 4th jug lost most of it what you heard is what we found so far ... very good for practising and that is it. 53.6grains found nothing from the front part at all...
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Phil... is this the Hornady 286 SP/RP bullet?

That is disturbing as that is the bullet I shoot in 9.3 for the most part... I might try to put half a dozen into wet newsprint and see what the results are...
 
Weird the interlock did so well on the 375 test but so poorly on the 9.3 test. Wonder if the .338 and .358 hornadies are in column A or B
 
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