9.3x62

DGY said:
Well I never really worried about recoil until I got my 458 Winchester magnum, loaded with 500gn bullets at 2200 fps… that is straight up unpleasant lol drop the bullet weight to 350 and the velocity up to 2400 and all the sudden it is a nice gun to shoot, the gun is only 9lbs!
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The "but did you die?" or "if he dies, he dies" memes immediately popped into my mind here lol
Nothing lesser will ever feel the same after a few snortin' 458 WM loads!
 
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Northern Shooter said:
I used to think my 458WM recoil was quite substantial, until I fired a 500 Jeffery. Wow.
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I guess there is always something bigger lol
A gunsmith I knew from back home made with his dad a 460 Weatherby magnum on a lithened up Ruger no1 just for shot and giggles… well a few people got beaten up by it over the years!!
 
DGY said:
I guess there is always something bigger lol
A gunsmith I knew from back home made with his dad a 460 Weatherby magnum on a lithened up Ruger no1 just for shot and giggles… well a few people got beaten up by it over the years!!
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This was a 500 Jeffery in a 9.0lbs Sako…far too light for caliber.
 
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A friend has a 510 Wells (460 Wby necked up) in a Ruger No.3...shoots a 700 gr bullet...now you're talking about recoil!
I fired it twice, offhand...won't be doing that again!!! (My bullets did land about an inch apart at 100 yards). I can live with that! I should be getting the T-shirt though! LOL

The difference in sharp smack and a push...you should shoot the 9.3 and then shoot the 300 Wby, or the 30-378 Wby...you'll immediately realize the difference.
The difference also has to do with the pressure curve of the expanding gases when the cartridge is fired (burn rate effects here too)...a slow steady curve will result in that shove vs the sharp spike in pressure which will give you that sharp smack. Simple physics here.

Another interesting item is when you fire a 30-06 with a 220 gr RN bullet and a 35 Whelen with a 225 gr SP. Due to less constriction of the gases through the bottleneck of the 35 Whelen, you will feel a difference in perceived recoil due to the variance in the pressure curve as compared to the 30-06 (or better yet, a 180 gr AccuBond in the 338 Federal and a 180 gr AccuBond in the 308 Win). For a true comparison, you need to shoot these cartridges in the same rifle platform for a truer comparison to equalize the variables as much as possible.
 
Rob said:
A mistake I think some make with the 9.3x62 is shooting it in short-barrel carbines. Try it in a rifle with a full-length barrel and you will find muzzle blast and recoil relatively easy to handle.
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Yeah. My 9.3x62 rifle has a 24" barrel. Actually, all three of my HVAs do.
 
AB3006 said:
Yeah. My 9.3x62 rifle has a 24" barrel. Actually, all three of my HVAs do.
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Mine also, it is built on a FN Commercial 98 mauser action (no thumb cut). W/O the scope bairly over 7 lbs and the stock is built with a bit more drop at the comb for iron sight usage. It has a lot of felt recoil. I have a limb-saver slip-on which helps a lot compared to the butt plate by itself. Without the pad I can handle about 10 rounds, but by then I am really hurting. Lots of fun!!
 
BlackRam said:
With your 6.5x55, 30-06 and 9.3x62 you have a nice 3 rifle battery capable of taking any game on the planet (where legal).
While your 30-06 is definitely capable of taking moose and elk at reasonable hunting distances, the edge with the 9.3 would be the additional energy and penetration for those larger subspecies of these animals (Alaska-Yukon moose), and where shot presentations, may be less than ideal (e.g. quartering to) where more heavy bone may be encountered trying to get that bullet into the vitals for a quick, clean kill. Or when the bullet may not have hit the animal as accurately as intended.
Best of luck finding the ammo or handload that your rifle shoots best, and may you have plenty of great adventures with it!
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BlackRam said:
I plan on trying Re-15, IMR 4064 and Varget in working up handloads with this bullet, to the same velocity specs, and see if I can duplicate, or better, the accuracy in my rifle.
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Thank you. Funny, how I have unintentionally collected 3 of the arguably most classic cartridges from 3 continents as my hunting rifles. And yes, I will reload for the 9.3.

I have Varget, as recommended in the Good Book (Lyman 51st ed), and I'm thinking of trying Ramshot. Also got a Burris Fullfield IV 2.5-10x42 ordered for it.
 
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My 9.3 is a HVA m98 with Bold trigger set in a composite stock that is fully bedded. The barrel channel is filled with bondo but still free floated. Scope mounted it's about 9 lbs with a 20" barrel. 286gr @2350 is quite pleasant to shoot and recoils about like a 7-8 lbs 30-06 and 180s at 27-2800fps. I love the 9.3x62 for a mid range elk/ moose rifle.
 
Not sure the weight on my 9.3x62. It's a Sauer 100 xt classic in synthetic. Feels pretty light but recoil is very mild.
As for recoil goes I'd rather shoot rhino stoppers from my 458wm than 3.5" 2oz turkey loads from my synthetic mossberg 535.
 
AB3006 said:
Thank you. Funny, how I have unintentionally collected 3 of the arguably most classic cartridges from 3 continents as my hunting rifles. And yes, I will reload for the 9.3.

I have Varget, as recommended in the Good Book (Lyman 51st ed), and I'm thinking of trying Ramshot. Also got a Burris Fullfield IV 2.5-10x42 ordered for it.
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For sure a cool collection of proven performers...hadn't connected the dots on the 3 continents before...nice!
Chalk it up to good instincts!

Owning the 6.5x55 and 9.3x62 myself, I liked the pairing of two European cartridges that have proven themselves admirably over the decades...and had even contemplated as another metric for in the middle to complete a well rounded 3 rifle battery of metrics, to include the 7x64.
I had both in the LH Sako Model 85 Hunter, and found that Sako had also built it in the 7x64. While I may not go looking for one specifically as I have a 280 and a 7mm Rem Mag...should I come across one, I would be sorely tempted to bring it home!
 
Every time this thread gets bumped I find myself thinking about a T3X Battue in 9.3x62mm dropped into this Tikka factory laminate stock I have kicking around. I know I have a rail and a set of QD rings that would work and think I still have an Atlasworx bottom metal as well. There's literally nothing I don't like about that package, although I would prefer a hinged floorplate (I'm fuddy like that).

Still haven't let go of the dies, brass, and two and a half boxes of Norma Alaska ammo either.
 
mikeyb said:
There's literally nothing I don't like about that package, although I would prefer a hinged floorplate (I'm fuddy like that).
Still haven't let go of the dies, brass, and two and a half boxes of Norma Alaska ammo either.
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I like the hinged floor plates too. You don't even need to top load them. Just open the plate, flip the rifle upside down, drop 4 or 5 cartridges in any old how and Bob's yer father's brother.

EDIT: You may want to close the floor plate before you flip right side up again :D
 
mikeyb said:
Every time this thread gets bumped I find myself thinking about a T3X Battue in 9.3x62mm dropped into this Tikka factory laminate stock I have kicking around. I know I have a rail and a set of QD rings that would work and think I still have an Atlasworx bottom metal as well. There's literally nothing I don't like about that package, although I would prefer a hinged floorplate (I'm fuddy like that).

Still haven't let go of the dies, brass, and two and a half boxes of Norma Alaska ammo either.
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Time to pull the trigger on that Battue! :cool:
 
saskgunowner101 said:
While I do agree that stock design can help OR hurt the situation, this isn't what I'm talking about.

You said in a previous post

Not sure where people get that this cartridge or that cartridge is a "push" while another has "sharp" recoil. You can load up all different combos of big bullets at lower velocity, or lighter bullets at high velocity and big cases of powder and recoil is recoil. Same kind of impulse depending on rifle weight.

You start off with "this cartridge or that cartridge" in an earlier post, but now you dialed it to "40 lbs of recoil no matter how you get there". Again, in the same rifle, not sure I'd notice the difference between a max load 232 grain bullet or a 285 grain bullet but there would be a slight difference. On the other hand, recoil pulse or velocity starts really showing up in bigger cartridges. Go pop off a 45-70 405 grain load at 1200 fps. Total pussycat. Take a 325 ftx and get it going 2,200 fps. Not a pussycat, kinda punchy, that's an example of a sharper recoil pulse. The gun is physically and mathematically coming back at you faster. Even the Chuck Hawks recoil tables reflect the fact.
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I said 40 foot pounds as a standard, to differentiate between a mild Remington factory 405 gr. 45-70 load, or a warm 45-70 load, and also to standardize a recoil level across the board regardless of platform.

Use this to put whatever numbers you like in this calculator and with the same rifle weight and recoil foot pound the rifle will come back at the same speed. It's not going to be different whether you're getting that number with a large case magnum or a big, heavy bullet going slower.

Recoil impulse and speed of recoil will necessarily go up in a lighter rifle to get to the same 40 ft/lbs recoil energy. Depending on ergonomics and recoil management, this may or may not be noticable.
 
Weatherby Fan said:
Just picked up a basically new Portugal made Winchester 70 Featherweight 30-06, going to rebarrel to 9.3x62 for a trip to Africa May 2026
I have a Shaw 1-14 but looking at a 1-12 Benchmark barrel
Would like to try some 250gr AB or TTSX overtop of N540/210m/Lapua Brass
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Sounds like fun! I'd be a little leery of a Featherweight chambered in 9.3x62 (I'd be leery of it in 30-06, TBH) but it should be a shooter and a half.
 
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