9mm 10 round mags US to Canada across boarder legal?

Unless your "friend" is a licensed exporter of ITAR regulated parts, he would be breaking US federal laws. Claiming them on the Canadian side does not exonerate him.

He is.

You guys are right. My apologies. The >$500 I was referring to was, as you guys stated, for businesses with a DDTC already. I wasn't clear with my friend that I was asking about "personal" as in non-licensed exports. The answer he gave me referred to companies with DDTC already.

I've never bought and imported any firearms parts from the US myself. I would never do so after reading over all this and being corrected on my interpretation of the sections of ITAR. It's better to just buy from a distributor here, or a distributor there that will ship here. I have bought stuff on US websites that was sent up here so they would have dealt with all that.

There are lots of things that are not ITAR controlled. Certain parts or products not listed in ITAR you'd be good with. The list of ITAR items is a bit of a read though.
 
Wow. Thanks for all the detailed responses.
The mags are for cz75b. He can get them at $15 plus a flat rate on the order to continental US of $6. Compared to prices up here that's a steal, guess I won't be touching it though. :(
 
Wow. Thanks for all the detailed responses.
The mags are for cz75b. He can get them at $15 plus a flat rate on the order to continental US of $6. Compared to prices up here that's a steal, guess I won't be touching it though. :(

Find out if the company will ship to Canada. Might still be cheaper if they do... But supporting local is better for the economy.

Hell when i bought my 1911 chip Mccormick power + mags from brownells I saved about $13 a mag compared to up here... sure shows you how vendors bend you over in canada. Anyways find somthing on brownells, irg ect... save yourself the hassle and the green.

SP

Yeah, clearly shows how vendors bend you over in Canada. Its not like they have to pay to import the stuff, buy with a weaker dollar, and they can't buy in anything close to the sort of volume that someone like Brownells can. Plus they have to pay their employees, rent/lease/bills, ect. No wonder the LGS can't sell you $13 magazines that cost them $25+ in the first place.
 
Already checked. They only ship to US. Of course I would choose to support local companies, but with the US prices danging in front of my face it's hard.
 
Wow. Thanks for all the detailed responses.
The mags are for cz75b. He can get them at $15 plus a flat rate on the order to continental US of $6. Compared to prices up here that's a steal, guess I won't be touching it though. :(

Good prices over there... too bad there is so much red tape involved.
 
Importing gun parts with the correct ITAR permits is very expensive.

No it isn't. Brownells charge something like 3% of your total order from memory. I did it last year, it just takes a little while to get the paperwork in order. I am as lazy as they come and it took me less than an hour to get everything sorted on my end.
 
Hell when i bought my 1911 chip Mccormick power + mags from brownells I saved about $13 a mag compared to up here... sure shows you how vendors bend you over in canada. Anyways find somthing on brownells, irg ect... save yourself the hassle and the green.

SP


Clearly, the canadian retailers are only here to screw us. Some people would really do anything to save a few dollars. Congratulation on supporting the canadian firearm industry! f:P:
 
Canadian firearm industry?

You mean them buying from the USA right?

I love supporting some stores. But I also know how much some of them have paid for certain things and some of their mark up is up to 300% when I was looking into some things.

There's support, then there's being ripped off.

+1 on having a place import for you since they have everything in place to do so.
 
Beating up on Canadian retailers, while it doesn't make me proud..encourages them to take the complaint to their suppliers and distributors, and to lobby for different or more equitable import tariffs, distributor pricing, etc.

My local John Deere guy sells a lawnmower for 499 that is 199 at dealers the US..the Husqvarna guy sells a lawnmower for 399 that is 199 at Sears in the US. I don't think its their fault..and I don't think they are getting rich off the sale..but buying from them without comment won't make positive change..and we can't change it at the consumer level without having the retailers on our side.

Not to mention in this case with CZ mags..not only are they 4X more are they not constantly out of stock?
 
No it isn't. Brownells charge something like 3% of your total order from memory. I did it last year, it just takes a little while to get the paperwork in order. I am as lazy as they come and it took me less than an hour to get everything sorted on my end.

You have an ITAR permit? Or you are saying brownells charges 3% for them to do the paperwork for your ITAR item with their ITAR licence?

I am willing to bet Canadian businesses are paying a premium for ITAR permits when buying in large quantities, which would add to the cost.
 
I'll buy Canadian if its not too much of a gouge. Glock mags are the worst here though....$55-$60 in some stores, $25 is on the high side in the US. No way I will support that.
 
Clearly, the canadian retailers are only here to screw us. Some people would really do anything to save a few dollars. Congratulation on supporting the canadian firearm industry! f:P:

What canadian firearms industry? Lol... i don't know about you but for me cash don't grow on trees, and yes I like to save a buck here and there and honestly who doesn't? Congratulations on paying to much and getting bent over...
 
Find out if the company will ship to Canada. Might still be cheaper if they do... But supporting local is better for the economy.



Yeah, clearly shows how vendors bend you over in Canada. Its not like they have to pay to import the stuff, buy with a weaker dollar, and they can't buy in anything close to the sort of volume that someone like Brownells can. Plus they have to pay their employees, rent/lease/bills, ect. No wonder the LGS can't sell you $13 magazines that cost them $25+ in the first place.

I clearly should have stated this was a couple years ago when the dollar was better. Sure lgs can't buy in volume like brownells can but I'm pretty sure brownells has a fair sized over head, you make it sound like brownells doesn't have bills to pay like everyone else. Not to mention I doubt lgs pay retail. Plus there not stupid they know the market so they can gouge however much they want.
 
Wow. Thanks for all the detailed responses.
The mags are for cz75b. He can get them at $15 plus a flat rate on the order to continental US of $6. Compared to prices up here that's a steal, guess I won't be touching it though. :(

Just to be clear. The law being broken by bringing gun parts across the border is US law. This has NOTHING to do with CDN law and once those components are in Canada there is nothing illegal about them. If your buddy chooses to violate US law then thats his problem. Just don't be the one to bring the stuff across the border yourself and you will be fine.
 
Just to be clear. The law being broken by bringing gun parts across the border is US law. This has NOTHING to do with CDN law and once those components are in Canada there is nothing illegal about them. If your buddy chooses to violate US law then thats his problem. Just don't be the one to bring the stuff across the border yourself and you will be fine.

I am aware that the illegal part is the exporting. But I wouldn't be much of a friend if I put my buddy up to it.
 
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