9mm ar15 10 ROUND mags!!!!!
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Ok just got back from the range
rand 100 rnds thru each of my mags with ZERO problems no fail to feeds they locked the bolt OPEN at last shot the mags fit and latched in perfectly and drop free when ejecting the mags
now lets see how long they stand up!
My colt mags are much better built with seel followers but alas are only 5 rnds...
Oh and i allready had a bunch of guys tell me I CANT have ten rnd mags in my ar15 9mm
rand 100 rnds thru each of my mags with ZERO problems no fail to feeds they locked the bolt OPEN at last shot the mags fit and latched in perfectly and drop free when ejecting the mags
now lets see how long they stand up!
My colt mags are much better built with seel followers but alas are only 5 rnds...
Oh and i allready had a bunch of guys tell me I CANT have ten rnd mags in my ar15 9mm
Canuck223 said:
I told then f-off
same bunch of old guys who say i cant have a BRS99 or the vz58
I told them it was a pistol mag they said whatever i still cant use it in my rilfe
I said yes I can and if they have a problem call the cops
contact148 said:
That will only make you enemies and cause you grief... much more fun would be to tell them to place their money where their mouth is... bet them $20 or a case of beer that it is quite legal to use a 10 round pistol magazine in a rifle (whether it is an AR or not). Then direct them to the CFC website where it goes into great detail about the CX Storm... it clearly states that a CX Storm rifle when using a CX Storm marked magazine is only allowed to have a capacity of 5 rounds, BUT when using a Beretta Pistol Magazine it is allowed to have a 10 round capacity. The same applies for Glock pistol magazines in the Olympic Arms AR rifles. The same goes for any of the S&W, Beretta or SIG pistol magazines when used in the KelTech rifles.
They'll learn a valuable lesson and instead of you having to teach this lesson for free to the police officer that they call you'll get to make money teaching it to the old farts at the club.
Too bad people don't know the actual regulations have as well as they think they do
to these old guys it does NOT matter they told me my vz58 was prohib i showed them the reg cert NOT good enough it MUST be wrong
My BRS99 was an "UZI" and prohib
they are hunter type and know EVERYTHING about gun laws..... no telling them different
My BRS99 was an "UZI" and prohib
they are hunter type and know EVERYTHING about gun laws..... no telling them different
this is a slippery slope and the RCMP must know it, right?
how long before the 223 "pistol" mags gets approved? why isn;t someone manufacturing a single shot hand cannon on the cheap that takes AR mags on the sole business plan of reselling pistol labeled mags?
just playing the devils advocate... why would they approve it?, do they agree that fundamentally our firearm laws are ridiculous?
f7
how long before the 223 "pistol" mags gets approved? why isn;t someone manufacturing a single shot hand cannon on the cheap that takes AR mags on the sole business plan of reselling pistol labeled mags?
just playing the devils advocate... why would they approve it?, do they agree that fundamentally our firearm laws are ridiculous?
f7
berretta storm
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/compliance-conformite/bulletins/shootingcr/bulletin11_e.asp
Special Bulletin for Shooting Clubs and Ranges – No 11
November 29, 2005
Notice
The information contained in this bulletin is considered accurate the date of publication. The information has not been updated to reflect any changes to the Firearms Act and related regulations.
Beretta CX4 Storm Magazine
Snapshot
Some Beretta CX4 Storm rifles are being manufactured with prohibited magazines.
The classification of a firearm magazine depends on the type of firearm the magazine was designed to be used in, not the type of firearm it is actually used in.
The new 10-cartridge magazine designed for the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle is prohibited unless it has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than five cartridges .
The 10-cartridge pistol magazine used on earlier versions of the Beretta CX4 Storm rifles is still legal.
We have recently learned that some Beretta CX4 Storm rifles are being manufactured with magazines that are prohibited in Canada.
As set out in Criminal Code Regulations, the classification of a magazine depends on the type of firearm a magazine was designed to be used in, not the type of firearm it is actually used in.
When the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle was first produced, it used a 10-cartridge magazine that was designed for a handgun. Most magazines designed for a handgun may legally hold up to 10 cartridges, even when used in a rifle.
Beretta is now producing a 10-cartridge magazine designed specifically for the CX4 Storm rifle. The law sets a maximum capacity of five cartridges for magazines designed for a semi-automatic, centre-fire long gun such as the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle. A 10-cartridge magazine with a CX4 Storm stamp on it is prohibited unless it has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than five cartridges.
Some of your members may already have acquired a rifle with the Beretta CX4 Storm magazine, not realizing that it is prohibited. We wish to assure those members that a prohibited magazine does not affect the classification of the firearm itself. The Beretta CX4 Storm rifle remains classified as a restricted firearm.
However, individuals who possess a rifle with a prohibited magazine must either dispose of the magazine or permanently alter it to hold a maximum of five cartridges. Otherwise, they risk penalties for illegal possession of a prohibited device if a law enforcement officer were to find the magazine in their possession. If they choose to dispose of a prohibited magazine, they may be able to replace it with one that is not prohibited – for example, a handgun magazine used on earlier versions of the rifle.
Criminal Code Regulations set out the following options for altering a prohibited magazine to make it legal:
The casing may be be indented by forging, casting, swaging or impressing; or
If the cartridge has a steel or aluminum casing, a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of the same (or similar) material as the casing, can be inserted and permanently attached to the inner surface of the casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or
If the cartridge is made of a material other than steel or aluminum, in addition to the options mentioned above, a permanent adhesive substance such as cement or epoxy glue can also be used to attach an insert. In this case, the insert would have to be made of steel or a material similar to that of the magazine casing.
Options for disposing of a prohibited magazine include transferring it to a properly licensed business (perhaps in exchange for one that is legal), exporting it to a country that allows it, or turning it in to a police or firearms officer.
An export permit may be required from International Trade Canada if the magazine is being exported to a country other than the United States. More information and application forms for an export permit are available from the Export Controls Division of International Trade Canada at 1 800 267-8376 or (613) 996-2387 or from their Website.
More Information
For general information, contact us at:
1 800 731-4000 (Toll Free)
E-mail: cfc-cafc@cfc-cafc.gc.ca
This bulletin is intended to provide general information only. For legal references, please refer to the regulations pertaining to prohibited magazines.
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if you so concerned about this here is what you do DONT EVER EVER buy a black rifle and esp dont buy the MAGS if fact dont own guns and all your worries are solved
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/compliance-conformite/bulletins/shootingcr/bulletin11_e.asp
Special Bulletin for Shooting Clubs and Ranges – No 11
November 29, 2005
Notice
The information contained in this bulletin is considered accurate the date of publication. The information has not been updated to reflect any changes to the Firearms Act and related regulations.
Beretta CX4 Storm Magazine
Snapshot
Some Beretta CX4 Storm rifles are being manufactured with prohibited magazines.
The classification of a firearm magazine depends on the type of firearm the magazine was designed to be used in, not the type of firearm it is actually used in.
The new 10-cartridge magazine designed for the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle is prohibited unless it has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than five cartridges .
The 10-cartridge pistol magazine used on earlier versions of the Beretta CX4 Storm rifles is still legal.
We have recently learned that some Beretta CX4 Storm rifles are being manufactured with magazines that are prohibited in Canada.
As set out in Criminal Code Regulations, the classification of a magazine depends on the type of firearm a magazine was designed to be used in, not the type of firearm it is actually used in.
When the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle was first produced, it used a 10-cartridge magazine that was designed for a handgun. Most magazines designed for a handgun may legally hold up to 10 cartridges, even when used in a rifle.
Beretta is now producing a 10-cartridge magazine designed specifically for the CX4 Storm rifle. The law sets a maximum capacity of five cartridges for magazines designed for a semi-automatic, centre-fire long gun such as the Beretta CX4 Storm rifle. A 10-cartridge magazine with a CX4 Storm stamp on it is prohibited unless it has been permanently altered so that it cannot hold more than five cartridges.
Some of your members may already have acquired a rifle with the Beretta CX4 Storm magazine, not realizing that it is prohibited. We wish to assure those members that a prohibited magazine does not affect the classification of the firearm itself. The Beretta CX4 Storm rifle remains classified as a restricted firearm.
However, individuals who possess a rifle with a prohibited magazine must either dispose of the magazine or permanently alter it to hold a maximum of five cartridges. Otherwise, they risk penalties for illegal possession of a prohibited device if a law enforcement officer were to find the magazine in their possession. If they choose to dispose of a prohibited magazine, they may be able to replace it with one that is not prohibited – for example, a handgun magazine used on earlier versions of the rifle.
Criminal Code Regulations set out the following options for altering a prohibited magazine to make it legal:
The casing may be be indented by forging, casting, swaging or impressing; or
If the cartridge has a steel or aluminum casing, a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of the same (or similar) material as the casing, can be inserted and permanently attached to the inner surface of the casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or
If the cartridge is made of a material other than steel or aluminum, in addition to the options mentioned above, a permanent adhesive substance such as cement or epoxy glue can also be used to attach an insert. In this case, the insert would have to be made of steel or a material similar to that of the magazine casing.
Options for disposing of a prohibited magazine include transferring it to a properly licensed business (perhaps in exchange for one that is legal), exporting it to a country that allows it, or turning it in to a police or firearms officer.
An export permit may be required from International Trade Canada if the magazine is being exported to a country other than the United States. More information and application forms for an export permit are available from the Export Controls Division of International Trade Canada at 1 800 267-8376 or (613) 996-2387 or from their Website.
More Information
For general information, contact us at:
1 800 731-4000 (Toll Free)
E-mail: cfc-cafc@cfc-cafc.gc.ca
This bulletin is intended to provide general information only. For legal references, please refer to the regulations pertaining to prohibited magazines.
Le présent bulletin est également disponible en français
Calum said:I still want the paper work as the wording is still:
acceptable as "handgun magazines".
Is Questar going to pay my legal fees if an RCMP decides to haul away my future black rifles over this?
Less marketing, and more proof please.
if you so concerned about this here is what you do DONT EVER EVER buy a black rifle and esp dont buy the MAGS if fact dont own guns and all your worries are solved
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it is because of these small dealers that are looking for an edge in sales i see a glimmer of hope in out sh!t laws here.
Good on Yah, job well done.
PS, didn't DPMS make a pump gun too?
Good on Yah, job well done.
PS, didn't DPMS make a pump gun too?
gonna have to disagree with GT on this. I don't think the RCMP have any clue as to what they are doing with any of the approvals or denials they've done, I honestly believe it depends on when the last coffee break was, or the last piss break, and the mood of the people involved. They are not consistent in their decisions, and do not seem to follow the written rule at all.
But that's just my opinion, and you all know what they say about opinions....
But that's just my opinion, and you all know what they say about opinions....
