9mm for hunting

USP said:
Im not putting anybody in thier place. If you want the "tactical" look for hunting there are better alternatives than 9mm. Lots of stuff in .223 or even bigger. My preference for that sort of thing would be M1A Scout in 7.62, short but flexible.

Your limiting yourself with the 9mm.
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I can see myself getting a Sub2000 for the heck of it, then a .223 to hunt with....which reminds me....should start looking at some .223s.
 
the smaller flip up sight on my uzi is marked for 200 meters- granted, i think that's a bit ambitious, just sayin
 
djmay71 said:
I can see myself getting a Sub2000 for the heck of it, then a .223 to hunt with....which reminds me....should start looking at some .223s.
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Do yourself a favour, go buy a new Winchester Model 70 in .270Win in the Featherweight series. Its cheap and well made and will give you alot of flexibility. The Sub2000 will probably fail you out in the woods with mud in it.
 
Amphibious;5771268[I said:
]9mm luger barely takes down a human at <15yrds [/I]- why would you think it's acceptable for hunting?

extremely poor choice. buy a cheap .30-30 lever gun.
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There would be a few people in the wars, that would beg to differ.
 
No problem that I see with people liking tacticool, but hunting requires specific sets of equipments and skills, no need to hinder your learning curve with a less then ideal gear.
 
9mm can be lethal if placed properly. Heck even a well placed 22LR projectile will put down a deer, is either a good idea, hell no, especially in the context of an inexperienced hunter.

Odds are even a well placed boiler room shot will illicit nominal organ destruction, the deer will eventually bleed out but only after running several hundred yards, and then good luck with the tracking.

I have shot quite a few deer most with what is often these days considered a diminutive hunting round the 30/30 and 95% of the deer dropped right to the ground if I did my job properly. I honestly beleive that I would be tracking wounded deer 95% of the time if I used a round with such relative low velocity and mass as the 9mm. That all said I might just take my non restricted cx4 for a coon or skunk safari. :)
 
luciferco said:
9mm rounds are faster outta a longer barrel.
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A great point. I'd like to see chronied 9mm rounds out of a pistol next to a non-restricted rifle to know just how much more kinetic energy a rifle could deliver.

I too would love to hunt with a cool-looking rifle in the bush but I have too many (far more) practical alternatives in the gun locker than a 9mm rifle, for any game.

Centerfire rifle is legal in Ontario for all the game you've mentioned (deer, fox, coyote) but so is 17 Remington, and like the 9mm, there are better options.
 
luciferco said:
9mm rounds are faster outta a longer barrel.
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Not necessarily.

You could certainly work up loads designed for a longer barrel, using slower-burning powder, but commercially-available 9mm ammo is optimized for barrels about 4-5" long. That means that the propellant is completely burned in the first 4-5". I can't see that adding an additional foot of barrel is going to add much velocity past that, certainly not enough to make it a reliable deer cartridge.
 
From the little bit of shooting into stuff I have done with the 9 I would say it is not even close to being ok to use for deer hunting.

A long bow, wood arows and stone broad heads would be more deadly than the nine IMHO
 
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