9mm vs .45 Finally answered

Wretched said:
heh. pretty funny :)

Love how they mix Imperial and Metric.
4.48 inches barrel length. Shouldn't that be 4 and 12/25ths of an inch?

Seriously. What's with Imperial, anyway? Metric is so much more elegant.
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Well Calibre is the same principle, tenths of an inch. eg .50 calibre is 5 tenths of an inch, or half an inch.

Tenths, Hundreds and Thousands of inches are commonly used in manufacturing and are often reported in product specifications.
 
Wretched said:
heh. pretty funny :)

Love how they mix Imperial and Metric.
4.48 inches barrel length. Shouldn't that be 4 and 12/25ths of an inch?

Seriously. What's with Imperial, anyway? Metric is so much more elegant.
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Where is the metric unit of measure in this? I hope you're only joking.
 
TW25B said:
You honestly think the Imperial system is superior??? You do realize that "human scale" changes with advancements in society like better diet and healthcare, so the scale should be a sliding one. Not the brightest option nor the most efficient. Metric is a decimal based system using "tens" which is far simpler to work with than say 12 inches to a foot. The US is the only industrialized nation not bright enough to adopt the metric system, that's called a clue.

TW25B
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Well that all depends on what you learned in school .
So when are we going to metric time ?
lol
 
Cocked&Locked said:
I spent 10 years working in a plant as a tool and die maker that was pure metric. I left that job to a place that was pure imperial....since then every place has been a bastard blend of each...(think north american auto makers).....

WHY ANYONE would chose to work in imperial is beyond me....and if they had to, why they'd use fractional measures is even further beyond me......not to even get into Letter and Number drills.......of course then there's my Dad, also a tool maker, who worked imperial so long that he has decimal equivalents for all the above memorized down to 64's......lol
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It's industry specific, I was a cook and am know a construction medic and in both industries imperial is simply easier to use, even though metric does make more sense. It's simply an impractical method of measurement for our application. Although I'm sure some industries it makes more sense to use metric.
 
hend238 said:
Where is the metric unit of measure in this? I hope you're only joking.
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The Metric system is base 10. So is the use of decimals.
Seems like a pretty straight forward comparison to me, speaking of the system - not the unit of measurement.

So no, I wasn't joking.
 
Wretched said:
The Metric system is base 10. So is the use of decimals.
Seems like a pretty straight forward comparison to me, speaking of the system - not the unit of measurement.

So no, I wasn't joking.
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Yes you are correct. Imperial system uses decimals as well and in this case 4.48 is 4 inches and 480 thousands of an inch or just .020" under 4.5 inches. So you can see why I questioned why you said they mixed imperial and metric because they didn't. But, I understand your comparison.
 
hend238 said:
Yes you are correct. Imperial system uses decimals as well and in this case 4.48 is 4 inches and 480 thousands of an inch or just .020" under 4.5 inches. So you can see why I questioned why you said they mixed imperial and metric because they didn't. But, I understand your comparison.
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Ah but you see, the Imperial system using decimals (base 10) is actually a modification of that system in effort to modernize it.

You can in fact buy measuring tapes with feet incremented to a base 10 system - but typically the Imperial system is based on binary subdivision, divisibility by three, and the use of base twelve. So to use decimals is kind of bastardizing that system towards the more friendly (and elegant) metric system.

anyways... nevermind me - it just seems odd to me when they're mixed. Someone else upthread mentioned bore sizes in this context. That's just odd, too if you ask me.
 
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Wretched said:
Ah but you see, the Imperial system using decimals (base 10) is actually a modification of that system in effort to modernize it.

You can in fact buy measuring tapes with feet incremented to a base 10 system - but typically the Imperial system is based on binary subdivision, divisibility by three, and the use of base twelve. So to use decimals is kind of bastardizing that system towards the more friendly (and elegant) metric system.
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Well I can't argue with you there.
 
The object of switching to the ISO metric system was to simplify production and the items kept in stock items, like nuts and bolts and to allow every to measure items with the same units.

For example to measure volume we used wet and dry units such as, barrels, cubic feet, cords, acre feet and if you lived in New Foundland unit's such as herring barrels, herring tubs, hogsheads, salt carts, salt tubs and sand barrels were legal units of measurement.

Another example would be that The Canadian gallon, the Imperial gallon and the US gallon are all different volumes.

The ISO units are the new standard.
 
sail32 said:
The object of switching to the ISO metric system was to simplify production and the items kept in stock items, like nuts and bolts and to allow every to measure items with the same units.

For example to measure volume we used wet and dry units such as, barrels, cubic feet, cords, acre feet and if you lived in New Foundland unit's such as herring barrels, herring tubs, hogsheads, salt carts, salt tubs and sand barrels were legal units of measurement.

Another example would be that The Canadian gallon, the Imperial gallon and the US gallon are all different volumes.

The ISO units are the new standard.
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No such thing as a Canadian gallon. Only commonly used measurements now are Imperial (which we would have used), or U.S. There was number of other gallon measurements over the years apparently like the wine gallon and U.S.(?) dry gallon.
 
From National Standard of Canada

Canadian Metric Practice Guide CAN3-Z234.1-76

1 gallon ( US ) = 3.785 412 cubic decimeters ( liters )

1 gallon ( UK or Imperial ) = 4.546 092 cubic decimeters ( liters )

1 gallon ( Canadian ) = 4.546 090 cubic decimeters ( liters )

There are dry volumetric measurements, 1 Peck ( US dry ) = 8.809 768 cubic decimeters ( liters )

Also; 1 Petrograd standard ( 165 cubic feet, sawn timber ) = 4.672 28 cubic meters
 
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The metric system sucks! Pierre Idiot Trudeau in an effort to tune the Canadian economy to the foolish & misguided European silly standard imposed the metric abomination on Canadians. Trudeau hated our number one trading partner and embraced the freakin commie Cuban totalitarian regime instead.
We got Celsius temperatures instead of Fahrenheit. When it's 70F outside and goes to 85F I know the difference. When in January it was -10F I knew it was cold enough to gel 10W30. Below zero is meaningless in Celsius for humans. Our American friends knew better than to adopt a quirky, unrepresentative European concept built on a faulty premise.
 
hatman1793 said:
The metric system sucks! Pierre Idiot Trudeau in an effort to tune the Canadian economy to the foolish & misguided European silly standard imposed the metric abomination on Canadians. Trudeau hated our number one trading partner and embraced the freakin commie Cuban totalitarian regime instead.
We got Celsius temperatures instead of Fahrenheit. When it's 70F outside and goes to 85F I know the difference. When in January it was -10F I knew it was cold enough to gel 10W30. Below zero is meaningless in Celsius for humans. Our American friends knew better than to adopt a quirky, unrepresentative European concept built on a faulty premise.
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I'm really hoping you just forgot to put a smiley face to show you were joking...
See, I'm a crossover kid. Was just getting a handle on Imperial when we switched.
Metric is much better to actually do stuff with. ..e.i. work with. I've actually had to detail measure tubulars and that right there convinced me the y'all system is outdated. Well; the dimensions are 4 7/8" diameter and 29.65' long. Really? Y'all had to invent a unit of measure because your's didn't work, lol.
What are we pumping? Gallons per minute or bbls?
Imperial is what I weight and how tall I am, though.
But to actually use? Metric is just way too efficient compared to Imperial.
Jeez, I thought I was a Fudd. Got me beat;big time, friend.
Unless you are joking of course.
 
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