A 22-284 Build....The Baboon Slayer...Done Now With Pics

That is a wicked looking cartridge... should be a screamer.

I find the black mounts/rings jarring with the stainless scope/action/barrel... it will be very nice looking when the finish is completed.
 
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I'm going to start slow........around 3500 fps and work up slowly, probably 1/2 gn at a time and see where or IF this bullet starts to stabilize. It'll be an interesting experiment on two fronts..........stability and bullet integrity. I could live with a high BC 70 grnr if I had to. There are lots of good bullets now in the heavier 22 cals so all won't be lost if she don't clean up with the 80s.........but I'm convinced I should be able to get enough velocity out of this 284 case and the 31" barrel to get the 80 into it's stability range.
I also got my hands on some RL 33 which may be the perfect powder for this cartridge. RL 25 was giving the best results previously so I'll start with that for now and try some RL 33 loads as well. It's monsooning again today so I may have to work on that today..........after I sand and paint the hole repairs in my trophy room.
 
c-fbmi said:
Well, that is a very complex question, KH..........So I'll try to give a relatively simple explanation, but this is going to take a lot of serious math and other bullet design explanations like ogive length to dia coefficients and bullet friction coefficients etc............Oh and the main reason, I have 500 of them...........
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LOL, good enough reason right there.
Interesting project, will be curious to see what kind of velocity you end up with.
 
c-fbmi said:
I personally think that manufacturers should publish the rotational requirements of their bullets, instead of saying 1-7 or 1-8 twist. I think their optimum stability in RPM or ### is what they should publish and then we could decide the best twist for our own cartridges and needs.
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I agree, but the old timers would probably have a heart attack. lol


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C_90......took a deer 2 years ago with it and it was devastating with dinner plate size exit hole............and yes it did exit at about 80 mtrs. It was in a thread 2 falls back.........No wait, that was the 234 Douglas with 105 gn Matrix bullets..........my mistake. I would expect very similar performance though............
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You still have the pics of this? They dont display in the 234 Family thread anymore. Hell of a read that one is btw...

c-fbmi said:
Well the monsoons hit again today.........could be a while before I get to shoot and use a chronograph again.........I gotta build my shooting house so I'm not controlled by the weather. I need to make up some more brass..........it is a PITA as they have to be stepped down, fired as 6mm-284, neck reamed then stepped down to 224 and fired then outside neck turned...........THEN I can start working loads for it..........
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Monsoons way out there in the interior?? I expect you are well aware, but you've got nothing on the coast! lol

Damn thats a lot of brass prep work. Couldn't find something with similar case capacity that wouldn't require so much work? Or just a love for the 284 case? (I see that was also the first 234 that you built, right?)
 
Suther......you looking for pics of the deer and damage or the cartridge?

The only other possibility is some 6.5-284 Lapua, but I have about 400 W-W 284 cases now and I have weight separated them.........I'll just pick away this winter and make up a bunch more. The ones that fall out of my weight range I use for my 6mm-284 and I can probably come up with a second weight range for my 23-284..........I have lots of X284 cartridges to use them in......

These the photos you were looking for?



 
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c-fbmi said:
Suther......you looking for pics of the deer and damage or the cartridge?

The only other possibility is some 6.5-284 Lapua, but I have about 400 W-W 284 cases now and I have weight separated them.........I'll just pick away this winter and make up a bunch more. The ones that fall out of my weight range I use for my 6mm-284 and I can probably come up with a second weight range for my 23-284..........I have lots of X284 cartridges to use them in......

These the photos you were looking for?



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If those are the 234 Douglas vs WT pics, then yeah that's what i wanted. Very impressive indeed.
 
Forgetting how fast my bullet was going I over lead just a bit on the first shot (the brisket shot) but he only went about 20 mtrs and lay down which is when I gave him the second in the ribs and out where the second photo shows. First shot 100-120 mtrs second shot about 80 mtrs.........both exited. I was impressed as I did not expect an exit. This was a 105 gn Matrix bonded bullet at a touch over 3400 fps from the 23-284.
 
Gatehouse said:
Ross Seyfried wrote an article about 10+years ago in Handloader about the 22-284. He also had bullets tearing themselves apart.

two bullets that Seyfried found that held together at hyper velocity / twist was the 60gr Nosler partition, which printed tiny groups at 4100 fps; and the Lost River Balistics 78 grain, which was the most accurate at just over 3700 fps

We may have even better bullet selections now in 2016. I probably have the magazine somewhere in my shed.
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Was this the one where he was wishing for an 80 grain partition to use on Elk?
 
c-fbmi said:
Suther......you looking for pics of the deer and damage or the cartridge?

The only other possibility is some 6.5-284 Lapua, but I have about 400 W-W 284 cases now and I have weight separated them.........I'll just pick away this winter and make up a bunch more. The ones that fall out of my weight range I use for my 6mm-284 and I can probably come up with a second weight range for my 23-284..........I have lots of X284 cartridges to use them in......

These the photos you were looking for?



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Tee-Hee! At least ye got the drumsticks from the bastard.:p
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Tee-Hee! At least ye got the drumsticks from the bastard.:p
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Surprisingly there was very little meat lost from this deer...........now had I hit a shoulder, or in a ham, I suspect the meat loss may have been quite extreme, but I really didn't give a sh!t as this guy scored 177 gross. The best WT I have ever had the opportunity to get a crack at.......
 
carverk said:
looks like you can use 22-284 on anything in North America by the looks of the exit wound
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Carverk.........I misspoke earlier in the thread, this deer was taken with my 23-284 and a Matrix 105, not my 22-284.........But with a well constructed 80+ gn bullet (if there was such a thing) I think one may expect similar results with the 22-284.
 
c-fbmi said:
Carverk.........I misspoke earlier in the thread, this deer was taken with my 23-284 and a Matrix 105, not my 22-284.........But with a well constructed 80+ gn bullet (if there was such a thing) I think one may expect similar results with the 22-284.
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Still impressive I would bet it knockdown moose and elk with out any problem
 
carverk said:
Still impressive I would bet it knockdown moose and elk with out any problem
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Ok, ok... but I want to see baboon pictures. I told my girlfriend about this thread, making a rifle and cartridge just for a baboon trip and she thought it was cool, she's been to Africa and baboons are a problem. She said you don't mess with baboons.

Guess you can with that cannon :)
 
unstableryan said:
Ok, ok... but I want to see baboon pictures. I told my girlfriend about this thread, making a rifle and cartridge just for a baboon trip and she thought it was cool, she's been to Africa and baboons are a problem. She said you don't mess with baboons.

Guess you can with that cannon :)[/QUOTE]

Not a cannon by any stretch, more a high speed mini javelin chucker............
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