A .30-06 poll

Do you own a .30-06?

  • Yes, it's my primary hunting rifle

    Votes: 429 45.3%
  • Yes, but I primarily hunt with other rifles

    Votes: 275 29.1%
  • No, but I want one

    Votes: 149 15.8%
  • No, then I'd have no way to justify my other hunting rifles to my wife

    Votes: 93 9.8%

  • Total voters
    946
The problem with the .30/06 is that it is just too good. There are few rifle shooting chores it won't excel at, so it's the best choice for the rifleman who wishes to use one rifle for many occasions. But it requires that one must ask the question of his rifle, "What is it for?" Today people are less happy with the one rifle concept and wish to have a specialized rifle for each day of the week, and some may even want to switch at lunch time. Others simply are unable to get their heads around the idea that a 100 year old cartridge can be as good as anything designed within the last 10 minutes. This is all good and keeps the small arms industry robust and healthy, but I prefer to have fewer, less specialized rifles and I appreciate time proven designs in both rifles and cartridges.

There might very well be other cartridges that are as versatile as the .30/06. The .375 H&H comes to mind, but you never saw a .375 win any medals at major competitions or see battle rifles chambered for Mr Hollands .375. Yet the .30/06 has won medals in competition, it has won battles around the world in wars both major and small, and it has taken all manner of game around the world.

If you are looking for formulas to assist you in your quest for advanced marksmanship(corrections for wind drift, uphill/down hill corrections, corrections for range, temperature and elevation corrections, corrections for humidity, corrections for spin drift over range, etc) chances are that formula you seek was either written for or pre-existed and was modified to the .30/06.

The .30/06 is the most powerful of the military rifle cartridges, outclassing such popular rivals as the .303, the 8X57, and the 7.5 Swiss. The much touted .308 falls short when you attempt to load it with bullets heavier than 200 grs, although the .308 enthusiasts will smugly point out that their rifles are available in short actions and the need for .30 caliber bullets heavier than 180 grs exists solely in the minds of .30/06 shooters and most of those bother to use the old 220 and 250 gr round nose bullets. Even if that claim were true, the most they can claim is that the .308 was designed to match the ballistics of the .30/06. As for the advantage of a short action rifle over a long, I fail to see it. MY wife's light weight .30/06 weighs the same as many short action .308s, about 6.5 pounds, and I have been unable to detect any difference in cycling time between the two action lengths. A difference may indeed exist, but it cannot be exploited to the benefit of the shooter. The 7.62X54R comes very close in power to the .30/06, much closer than the .308, but its .310 bore and large rim diameter hinders it from being chambered in typical sporting rifles or from gaining much popularity outside of eastern Europe.

As good as the selection of factory ammo is for the .30/06 rifleman, the choice of components for the handloader is unmatched by any other cartridge. The range of burning rates suitable for this cartridge begins with Unique for the cast bullet shooter, ranges from 3031 to 4895 for light weight bullets, from 4895 to 4350 for mid weight bullets and right up to H-4831 and Re-22 for heavy jacketed bullet loads. If a commercial ammunition manufacturer makes rifle brass, he makes it in .30/06. Many cartridges that have gained attention over the last few years are only made by a single manufacturer. This will often limit the supply, probably on the day you need to get some. By contrast, once fired .30/06 brass can often be picked up from the range for free. I bought a box of Nosler brass to try out, but it is still sitting in the box while I shoot up what appears to be an endless supply of "free" brass that increases in number with each visit to the range.

Is a .30/06 as versatile as a .300 magnum (Winchester, Weatherby, WSM, Ultra, 30/378 and the various .30 caliber large case wildcats)? That depends. A .30/06 with a long fast barrel can give a .300 with a short slow barrel a real run for it's money, and do it with considerably less recoil and blast. But yes, the '06 does fall short of the velocity possible with a .300 magnum given equal rifles firing similar bullets. Does that make the .300 more versatile? Perhaps the .300 is equally versatile, but I doubt if many riflemen could exploit it's ballistic advantage, and many more would be intimidated by the .300's greater recoil and blast. If the .30/06 has 8" of bullet drop at 300 yards while the .300 drops 6", does it matter when you are shooting at a moose, and more to the point, does it matter when the moose is at 75?

I have previously said that the cartridge a rifle is chambered for is the least important element of it's design, and I stand by that statement. The choice of the type of action, the weight, length, and contour of barrel, the choice of magazine, the choice of sights, the choice of stock, stock material, bedding and dimensions are all more critical than the chambering to the ultimate success or failure of your rifle. Many cartridges do a number of things very well, particularly when handloaded, but in the final analysis, few do them any better than the .30/06.
 
The problem with the .30/06 is that it is just too good. There are few rifle shooting chores it won't excel at, so it's the best choice for the rifleman who wishes to use one rifle for many occasions. But it requires that one must ask the question of his rifle, "What is it for?" Today people are less happy with the one rifle concept and wish to have a specialized rifle for each day of the week, and some may even want to switch at lunch time. Others simply are unable to get their heads around the idea that a 100 year old cartridge can be as good as anything designed within the last 10 minutes. This is all good and keeps the small arms industry robust and healthy, but I prefer to have fewer, less specialized rifles and I appreciate time proven designs in both rifles and cartridges.

There might very well be other cartridges that are as versatile as the .30/06. The .375 H&H comes to mind, but you never saw a .375 win any medals at major competitions or see battle rifles chambered for Mr Hollands .375. Yet the .30/06 has won medals in competition, it has won battles around the world in wars both major and small, and it has taken all manner of game around the world.

If you are looking for formulas to assist you in your quest for advanced marksmanship(corrections for wind drift, uphill/down hill corrections, corrections for range, temperature and elevation corrections, corrections for humidity, corrections for spin drift over range, etc) chances are that formula you seek was either written for or pre-existed and was modified to the .30/06.

The .30/06 is the most powerful of the military rifle cartridges, outclassing such popular rivals as the .303, the 8X57, and the 7.5 Swiss. The much touted .308 falls short when you attempt to load it with bullets heavier than 200 grs, although the .308 enthusiasts will smugly point out that their rifles are available in short actions and the need for .30 caliber bullets heavier than 180 grs exists solely in the minds of .30/06 shooters and most of those bother to use the old 220 and 250 gr round nose bullets. Even if that claim were true, the most they can claim is that the .308 was designed to match the ballistics of the .30/06. As for the advantage of a short action rifle over a long, I fail to see it. MY wife's light weight .30/06 weighs the same as many short action .308s, about 6.5 pounds, and I have been unable to detect any difference in cycling time between the two action lengths. A difference may indeed exist, but it cannot be exploited to the benefit of the shooter. The 7.62X54R comes very close in power to the .30/06, much closer than the .308, but its .310 bore and large rim diameter hinders it from being chambered in typical sporting rifles or from gaining much popularity outside of eastern Europe.

As good as the selection of factory ammo is for the .30/06 rifleman, the choice of components for the handloader is unmatched by any other cartridge. The range of burning rates suitable for this cartridge begins with Unique for the cast bullet shooter, ranges from 3031 to 4895 for light weight bullets, from 4895 to 4350 for mid weight bullets and right up to H-4831 and Re-22 for heavy jacketed bullet loads. If a commercial ammunition manufacturer makes rifle brass, he makes it in .30/06. Many cartridges that have gained attention over the last few years are only made by a single manufacturer. This will often limit the supply, probably on the day you need to get some. By contrast, once fired .30/06 brass can often be picked up from the range for free. I bought a box of Nosler brass to try out, but it is still sitting in the box while I shoot up what appears to be an endless supply of "free" brass that increases in number with each visit to the range.

Is a .30/06 as versatile as a .300 magnum (Winchester, Weatherby, WSM, Ultra, 30/378 and the various .30 caliber large case wildcats)? That depends. A .30/06 with a long fast barrel can give a .300 with a short slow barrel a real run for it's money, and do it with considerably less recoil and blast. But yes, the '06 does fall short of the velocity possible with a .300 magnum given equal rifles firing similar bullets. Does that make the .300 more versatile? Perhaps the .300 is equally versatile, but I doubt if many riflemen could exploit it's ballistic advantage, and many more would be intimidated by the .300's greater recoil and blast. If the .30/06 has 8" of bullet drop at 300 yards while the .300 drops 6", does it matter when you are shooting at a moose, and more to the point, does it matter when the moose is at 75?

I have previously said that the cartridge a rifle is chambered for is the least important element of it's design, and I stand by that statement. The choice of the type of action, the weight, length, and contour of barrel, the choice of magazine, the choice of sights, the choice of stock, stock material, bedding and dimensions are all more critical than the chambering to the ultimate success or failure of your rifle. Many cartridges do a number of things very well, particularly when handloaded, but in the final analysis, few do them any better than the .30/06.


amen brother!!
 
amen brother!!
I agree 100% as well

I just like too may calibers myself and am as gulty as the next guy for loosing intrest in this case.

The Springfield .30 M2-Ball was a great creation in 1906 and you need not to look for anything more than what the 30-06 can do, and it has nothing else to prove because it has done it all in the past hundred years from Germany to Africa, South America to North America. How can you call that boring.
 
Well Boomer that was quite eloquent. My feelings exactly and have only one in the safe. I also have a 308 but for thump the dirty '06 gets to ride shotgun. That would be a good article for a mag like Rifle or Shooter. Right on Dude. Pretty much nails it.
 
I have owned three , 742 Woodsmaster, 700 Remington and a Sako Finnbear I sold in a moment of insanity. All were great guns and killed well.
I think Townsend Whelen said," The .30/06 is never a mistake."
 
Another reason why I like to have a 30-06?

I could not have helped my buddy to kill a moose last week if I was hunting with a 300WSM. He forgot his cartridges at the camp! You can find 30-06 cartridges anywhere anytime, even in a F-350 at 5h30AM!

Ghys
 
1965 Browning Safari and 1959 Winchester Model 70 Featherweight I hunt with both rifles But I have more interest in the vintage rifles than the caliber these rifles are very common in theses calibers .
 
Husky

I have one, a Husky...no wait A Carl Gustov 30-06, with a Leopold scope It is my go to hunting rifle and I am quite comfy with it out to 350 yrds. I do not believe that it is too slow, as of yet no Deer has outran it. The five animals that were in my truck two weeks ago were all taken with 30-06, 3 mine and two my buddies Sako. Works for me! I especially enjoy the range of weight that it will shoot, from 55gr to 225gr. I do want a 25-06 and a lever action, not sure what caliber but that is just so I can say I have one as I think they are the coolest rifles out there.

My 2 cents
 
I've got three. A Browning BAR which is my main hunting rifle. Very accurate for a semi auto. An M1 Garand which I use for vintage military matches and introducing new shooters to the classic WWII battle rifle. Last but not least a Remington 03A3 which is my favourite cast bullet plinker.

Old Ranger
 
Three in my stable. A Browning BLR, 2 Springfield 03a3's. One is a bubba project gone bad, semi straightened out, and one which is pristine that I have fired once in the past 15 years.
 
more often than not, my Ruger No.1 A in 30-06 calls my name the loudest on hunting morning when the safe door is opened. Have many others to chose from. gonna coax my BLR in 358 to shout a little louder this yr. will see what happens.
 
Yeah, 2900 too slow. Can I laugh now? With the load in mine currently I think it would easily chrony at 3400.180gr boolit moving that fast and giving easy moa out to 200m-well Im happy with that. If I cant kill it with that I shouldnt be hunting. But then I suppose there are those among us that are more reliant on tech than skill......
 
This is going to sound weird but, I don't own a 30-06 but I somehow have aquired over 100 spent casings and reloading dies for it?!?
I would like to add one to my gun safe eventually though.
Eric
 
the 30-06 is an obsolete round it is too slow wouldnt even want a rifle chambered in it if you gave it to me junk!!


And yet the .45-70 kills animals dead at a muzle velocity of 1300 fps in factory loadings. So 2700 fps 180 grains is way too slow? And this compared to 10% faster for the .300 mags which is much better? Go figure!:rolleyes:

The .30-06 does it all and does it well. If you can't drop your game with it, consider marksmaship as something you need to focus on and not the caliber of your rifle.
 
the 30-06 is an obsolete round it is too slow wouldnt even want a rifle chambered in it if you gave it to me junk!!

Too slow to do what? I wonder what it is you can do with your fire breathing high velocity numbers that can't be be done as well or better with the .30/06. Some people have difficulty believing that something that was designed 100 years ago can be as good or better than anything developed in the last 5 minutes. Hell lakedweller, I don't know why you'd even lower yourself to use something as archaic as a firearm that develops its power through chemical energy to push a lump of lead.
 
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