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had the pleasure of handling the new Glock 45GAP the other day. Now as my handle states, I'm a big fan of the .45ACP and tend to lean towards Para ords and straight up 1911's. I have always snuffed my nose at Glocks.... I dunno why.... I just never liked em..... I like steel :D
But this new .45GAP round is very cool..... small handed shooters will love this gun, which still allows a full 230gr bullet in a 19mm casing...... fricken genious. Why didn't anyone think of this years ago?
anyone else had the pleasure of playing with one of these new glocks.... need some other feedback before i decide to drop more cash on another toy :D
 
the 45GAP is a shortened case 45ACP , same bullets just a shorter case. This is made possible due to the fact that there has always been extra space or "gap" inside the casing between the powder and the bullet on a standard 45acp round. The size of the 45acp has always been an issue with small handed shooters who feel much more comfortable gripping a 9mm due the smaller grip size from front to back that the 9mm affords. i watched a video of this guy's 11 year old shooting the Glock 45gap and she had no problems getting a full 2 hand grip on the pistol and dumping a full 10 rnd mag down range.... i was quite impressed.

what they have done is essentially removed the gap in the casing and shortened it to 19mm while still maintain the same loads and bullet weights.
I am not sure on ammo availlability yet, I've only begun researching this model within the last couple days.
 
welcome to the club! GLOCK are a different firearm, but when you find one that works, you will never go back...
 
doesn't GAP mean glock automatic pistol?? Never heard of the gab between powder and bullet being responsible for caliber nomenclature. I don't know. How much does it sell for?
 
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GAP does stand for Glock Automatic Pistol. Glock designed the cartridge so they get to name it.

There is a space ( gap ) between the powder & the bullet on the 45ACP but that gap has nothing to do with the name of the new cartridge.
 
Main question is... does the .45GAP have any better stopping power or other practical advantages over the .40 S&W?

I've thought about getting a Glock in 45 GAP as well. While I am a die-hard 1911/.45ACP fan, I also have been shooting a Glock 22 .40 cal since 1995... and a certain group of our local law enforcement have issued/are carrying the Glock in .45 GAP so there is some access to once fired brass. And I happen to also have a spankin/ new set of Lee carbide .45 GAP dies... :eek:
 
The .45ACP vs .45GAP vs .40S&W issue has been beaten to death on American gun forums since Glock introduced the .45GAP round a few years ago...
Reliable Gun & Tackle have .45GAP ammo by the case. :)
 
I was interested in getting a G37 till I couldn't find any 45 GAP anywhere .....kind of fizzled out the excitement :(


Look for the ammo before you buy the pistol........you may be suprised that there is very little or none out there, I was :runaway:
 
45ACPKing,

The GAP rd only emerged recently with better powder development. Similar to the Winchester Short Mag phenomenon. It looks to be interesting but like everything in Canada it will take a while to take root (or possibly never).
 
NAA said:
Main question is... does the .45GAP have any better stopping power or other practical advantages over the .40 S&W?
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The debate over stopping power is a moot point. Any common calibre will do the job. Its not about what you put on target, its about where you put it. Calibre choice, bullet design or any other technological "advantage" is a poor substitute for solid marksmanship skills.;)

TDC
 
I put rounds through a Springfield XD 45 GAP and I loved it. In fact, I didn't know the pistol was a 45 GAP until I finished firing it. I would own a 45 GAP but I haven't been around one that was for sale at the right price. Regards, Richard:D
 
Nine said:
GAP?

I'd like to handle a G21FS in actual 45ACP, before I buy a HG in ammo I have never seen around.
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The GAP is not too common but those who have it really like it. Very accurate.

I had a G21 SF but it is not a lot smaller than the regular 21 so it does not work for my girly hands! I sold it to another Selkirk member and he likes it.
 
TDC said:
The debate over stopping power is a moot point. Any common calibre will do the job. Its not about what you put on target, its about where you put it. Calibre choice, bullet design or any other technological "advantage" is a poor substitute for solid marksmanship skills.;)

TDC
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Exactly.......................................................... :cool:
 
tobin said:
The GAP is not too common but those who have it really like it. Very accurate.

I had a G21 SF but it is not a lot smaller than the regular 21 so it does not work for my girly hands! I sold it to another Selkirk member and he likes it.
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Bummer. I have small hands, I have shot a G21, not comfortably though!
 
I was quite disappointed with the grip frame on the 21SF. I was hoping for more of a single stack like the little Glock 36, only in a full size gun.

The 21 SF is a little smaller at the bottom than the regular 21 and it gets smaller near the top of the grip, but still not enough for me. You will have to try one for yourself.

I still prefer the small framed Glocks!
 
One of our local PD ERT's is using 45 GAP, there's all sorts of nice once fired brass at the range, let me know if you buy one and I'll see if I can come up with some brass for you.
 
TDC said:
The debate over stopping power is a moot point. Any common calibre will do the job. Its not about what you put on target, its about where you put it. Calibre choice, bullet design or any other technological "advantage" is a poor substitute for solid marksmanship skills.;)

TDC
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I've actually wondered if the whole 'stopping power' issue was even possible to objectively quantify. The statistics are much more difficult to interpret than they seem at first glance. Just one example: 45 ACP is generally regarded as an excellent stopper - is that because the round is inherently better, or is it because 45 ACP shooters are generally 'enthusiasts' who practice/train more and are therefore more skilled at placing shots, than say someone who went out and bought a gun because they saw it in a movie and never bother to shoot it. (have you ever noticed how few 'action movies' feature a guy with a 1911 - since Steven retired)
 
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