A$$ Hole...

I've donated $$$ to Hipwell, and heavily supported his business
I feel I've been suckered

Let’s see what Hipwell himself says. I’m sure there wasn’t a 100% agreement from all CSAAA members to sell out to Mendocino…

Already one company saying a strong nea to the CSAAA about this and I’ll bet there’s more coming.

How can it happen that many companies are taking legal action against the government and an association that they belong to strikes up a offhand deal? Doesn’t look good.
 
More like they believe they can make the seizure more fair than it otherwise would be if the government was left to their own devices.

They state their goal is too obtain fair compensation.

This is like your lawyer saying his plan is obtain a fair sentence. It's conceding you're guilty in the first place and you're ready to cooperate.
 
I've donated $$$ to Hipwell, and heavily supported his business
I feel I've been suckered

If it makes you feel better, in the thread seeking donations, John Hipwell explained that the donations went to his action, he is not a member of CSAAA and his son, Matt, is running the business.
 
Lots of low info, emotional types posting derogatory stuff here. I don’t own a firearms business but do understand what is transpiring here. In order for these business to divest of millions in stock this arrangement is a must. Some have been sitting on inventory they can’t sell for close to 3 years. If these same companies were working with the feds to confiscate privately owned firearms, then that’s a different story. They aren’t doing this. On the flip side of this coin, there are more than a few gun owners who wouldn’t mind getting government cash for firearms that they can no longer use due to prohibition. I am definitely not one of these but there are many.
 
On the flip side of this coin, there are more than a few gun owners who wouldn’t mind getting government cash for firearms that they can no longer use due to prohibition. I am definitely not one of these but there are many.

I'm one of them. I hate the prospect of losing my AR and Mini but keeping them leaves me with rifles I can't use and open to a criminal charge if caught with them. A criminal record, fine, revocation of my PAL, seizure of my current firearms, loss of my job and the ability to travel internationally are too high a price to pay for two rifles. When the time comes they will be turned in and I will use the government's money to buy other firearms.

I understand what the dealers have done and why. I will not boycott any of them including Epps.
 
If it makes you feel better, in the thread seeking donations, John Hipwell explained that the donations went to his action, he is not a member of CSAAA and his son, Matt, is running the business.

Mr. Hipwel fight the IOC and his son business is a member in an org that selled out to the Libs and, by doing so, undermined ALL IOC court challenges and gun owners who financially support those.
 
Lots of low info, emotional types posting derogatory stuff here. I don’t own a firearms business but do understand what is transpiring here. In order for these business to divest of millions in stock this arrangement is a must. Some have been sitting on inventory they can’t sell for close to 3 years. If these same companies were working with the feds to confiscate privately owned firearms, then that’s a different story. They aren’t doing this. On the flip side of this coin, there are more than a few gun owners who wouldn’t mind getting government cash for firearms that they can no longer use due to prohibition. I am definitely not one of these but there are many.

Low infos ? Emotional stuff ? Are you nut ? Obviously you do not have 10-15K in guns locked up for the last 3 years along with another 2-3 k of accessories.You are not emotional when you flap your gums and have nothing in the fight.

Gun owners wanting cash ? Gun owners what the free use of the guns their legitimately - legally purchased guns. That it. We have done nothing wrong to get our property taken away.

That CSAAA contract - agreement undermine all court challenge against the IOC. They agreed by selling their inventory that those guns should not be in the hand of civilian after selling them to us. Now those scum bags want a payoff to buy more gun after the grabback to sell to us ? No way Jose.

Nobody purchased their IOC gun to sell at a fraction of their value to the gov. Get real.
 
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I'm one of them. I hate the prospect of losing my AR and Mini but keeping them leaves me with rifles I can't use and open to a criminal charge if caught with them. A criminal record, fine, revocation of my PAL, seizure of my current firearms, loss of my job and the ability to travel internationally are too high a price to pay for two rifles. When the time comes they will be turned in and I will use the government's money to buy other firearms.

I understand what the dealers have done and why. I will not boycott any of them including Epps.

Baaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaa Sheeple.
 
I'm one of them. I hate the prospect of losing my AR and Mini but keeping them leaves me with rifles I can't use and open to a criminal charge if caught with them. A criminal record, fine, revocation of my PAL, seizure of my current firearms, loss of my job and the ability to travel internationally are too high a price to pay for two rifles. When the time comes they will be turned in and I will use the government's money to buy other firearms.

I understand what the dealers have done and why. I will not boycott any of them including Epps.

As someone who became a gun owner after the OIC and has never experienced not living in fear of what the government will do next, I find this post extremely disheartening. If a significant amount of gun owners give up and turn their banned guns into the government, they will declare victory against us and continue to ban and confiscate until we have nothing left. If we collectively give the government the middle finger and hold onto our guns, it will become impossible for the government to enforce their ridiculous bans. If the compliance rate for a buyback is close to zero, they will have no choice but to continually extend the amnesty period, just like the long gun registry. Giving up allows them to declare victory, we can't allow that.
 
As someone who became a gun owner after the OIC and has never experienced not living in fear of what the government will do next, I find this post extremely disheartening. If a significant amount of gun owners give up and turn their banned guns into the government, they will declare victory against us and continue to ban and confiscate until we have nothing left. If we collectively give the government the middle finger and hold onto our guns, it will become impossible for the government to enforce their ridiculous bans. If the compliance rate for a buyback is close to zero, they will have no choice but to continually extend the amnesty period, just like the long gun registry. Giving up allows them to declare victory, we can't allow that.

How it worked elsewhere is government made a compensation offer for a set period of time. Either people took the money or not and those that didn't were left with firearms they couldn't use without potentially being caught with them and charged.

A criminal record puts me out of work. Feeding my family and keeping a roof over their heads is more important than holding on to a prohibited rifle. I've got other guns to shoot.
 
I'm one of them. I hate the prospect of losing my AR and Mini but keeping them leaves me with rifles I can't use and open to a criminal charge if caught with them. A criminal record, fine, revocation of my PAL, seizure of my current firearms, loss of my job and the ability to travel internationally are too high a price to pay for two rifles. When the time comes they will be turned in and I will use the government's money to buy other firearms.

I understand what the dealers have done and why. I will not boycott any of them including Epps.

Hey, easy way to ease your worries, just have a "boating accident" :D
 
I'm one of them. I hate the prospect of losing my AR and Mini but keeping them leaves me with rifles I can't use and open to a criminal charge if caught with them. A criminal record, fine, revocation of my PAL, seizure of my current firearms, loss of my job and the ability to travel internationally are too high a price to pay for two rifles. When the time comes they will be turned in and I will use the government's money to buy other firearms.

I understand what the dealers have done and why. I will not boycott any of them including Epps.

Oh, seizure of just firearms concerns you? Loss of job? What industry, only approved and appropriately taxed one? Travel internationally? Maybe not even locally.
You will do as you are told, now, then and always.
The $ you get won't buy you another rifle, maybe a handful of bugs.
 
O'Dell has said they are now distancing themselves from CSAAA, Ryan at SFRC just announced he is quitting the board. No comment from Matt at Wolverine although his (retired founder) Dad posted comments on their sub forum.
 
As someone who became a gun owner after the OIC and has never experienced not living in fear of what the government will do next, I find this post extremely disheartening. If a significant amount of gun owners give up and turn their banned guns into the government, they will declare victory against us and continue to ban and confiscate until we have nothing left. If we collectively give the government the middle finger and hold onto our guns, it will become impossible for the government to enforce their ridiculous bans. If the compliance rate for a buyback is close to zero, they will have no choice but to continually extend the amnesty period, just like the long gun registry. Giving up allows them to declare victory, we can't allow that.

Good to see that some people get it.
 
How it worked elsewhere is government made a compensation offer for a set period of time. Either people took the money or not and those that didn't were left with firearms they couldn't use without potentially being caught with them and charged.

A criminal record puts me out of work. Feeding my family and keeping a roof over their heads is more important than holding on to a prohibited rifle. I've got other guns to shoot.

You do you. I'm going to do me. One me thing, is knowing someone who has no backbone is not to be trusted/dealt with/left behind you. I'm actually surprised my ignore list hasn't gained any other sheep/quislings today.
 
Mendocino just proudly said on tonight’s news that he was proud to announce that the first step in the confiscation of prohibited firearms was now in progress.

It’s hard to believe that this association is now in collaboration with the government to help on the cataloging of business owners prohibited firearms and prohibited firearms parts while some of these businesses have outstanding court cases against the government.

There’s at least one member of the CSAAA membership that’s totally unhappy with the association bowing down to the government.

It just doesn’t make sense.
 
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